RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - President Mahmoud Abbas told Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert at a summit on Sunday he was still committed to a comprehensive peace deal but ruled out any partial agreement, a Palestinian negotiator said. Saeb Erekat told reporters in the West Bank city of Ramallah that Abbas had told Olmert during talks in Jerusalem Palestinians "will not be part of any interim agreement. Either everything will be agreed or nothing will be agreed." Ahead of the meeting in Jerusalem, Olmert aides said the Israeli leader, poised to resign next month, planned to ask Abbas to draft a joint document of understandings before his Kadima party votes on September 17 to name his successor. But Olmert's spokesman Mark Regev said after the meeting: "It is not realistic to expect that there's a quick fix or a shortcut. We won't solve the conflict issues on the table in two or three weeks." Abbas, along with some of Olmert's cabinet colleagues, are cool to the idea of pushing through a preliminary peace deal. Tzipi Livni, Israel's foreign minister and front-runner in the Kadima race, has cautioned against papering over differences with Abbas and rushing towards an accord.
A senior Abbas aide said Rice had proposed several bridging proposals during her 25-hour visit last week and they would be discussed at the Olmert-Abbas meeting in Jerusalem. They included working out a territorial swap and basing the borders of a future Palestinian state on lines that existed before Israel captured the West Bank in a 1967 war, while taking into account several major Jewish settlement blocs. The issue of Jerusalem would be resolved as part of the borders debate but holy sites and the walled Old City where they are located would be discussed at a later stage, the aide said.
There is probably no time to come to agreements about Jerusalem before Mr Ehud Olmert resigns. Olmert's proposal could in fact protect both Palestinians, Israelis and every one else interests..It does not nesessarly mean some delay´s but rather gives time to come to agreements, if the talks on Jerusalem be held under an international umbrella. The negotiations will still be held directly between Israel and the Palestinians. The solution offered by the prime minister is to agree to a mechanism for discussing the issue of Jerusalem. Olmert's proposal is meant to gain broad backing for the Palestinian leadership's decisions, and prevent any collapse of the agreement. Broadening the international, inter-faith element only increases the chances of finding an acceptable agreement. And this is not a partial agreement, it´s giving time to come to agreements and protects all interests, the peace process and conditions to come to fully agreements under such a mechanism.
But..In order to not just present a "partial agreement" before the UN General Assembly in September there is really need to come to understandings about the borders around Jerusalem. If there must be borders! Jerusalem is a open central point for people all over the world and shall be that in the future as well. As we said: NO ONES like to go to Jerusalem with Palestinians "on the other side of the fence" or cut off by some highway and concrete blocks! We want Jerusalem as it is, and Palestinians and Israelis to live there and around Jerusalem in coexistence and not come to some bunker! Get that! And we have enough of fanatics and politicians screaming about how Jerusalem is divided! Arabs, Palestinians and Israelis are already living in Jerusalem and there are no talks about dividing Jerusalem so just forget about the world will accept such justifications for a few bunch of peoples own political interests! We really had enough of this nagging!
And we are sure of that the Israelis and the Palestinians can come to agreements about security without destroying agricultural lands. Buffer zones must not destroy all agricultural lands. And if there is a agreement between Israel and Syria both Israelis and Palestinians need ALL agricultural lands you can get! And talking about building permits! If there is going to be a two state solution there is really no justifications to demolish houses in the West Bank! The Israelis have nothing what so ever to do with building permits in the future independent Palestine! Get use to that!
Sunday, August 31, 2008
While the leaders of Pakistan squabbles about who´s most powerful..
At least 61 people are killed and another 130 injured in tribal clashes between warring clans in northwestern Pakistan's Kurram Agency Pakistani daily, The News, quoted unnamed sources Sunday as saying that the 191 casualties had been caused during the past 24 hours alone.The fierce clashes had started between rival Turi and Bangash tribes in Kurram Agency 19 days ago. Other sources said Bangash tribe has the support of local militants, 45 of which were reportedly among the 61 killed in the latest clash. The injured were rushed to hospitals of Kotal, Hangu, Sadda and Parachinar.The fighting has forced many to of the locals to abandon their houses and seek refuge in nearby areas where basic food and medicine is available.
Oh my gousch another parrot!
Russia warns will respond to "aggression".
But really not that surprising in some parts of the world where the users use the users of the used..where other users use the used of the users..
But really not that surprising in some parts of the world where the users use the users of the used..where other users use the used of the users..
And let´s be realistic..
We are going to have a prisoner swap, have women and minors and Gilad Schalit released..
We will release the Waqf ministry from responsibility of the last destruction of the Temple Mount/Dome of the Rock!
And lay it on the Israeli Antique Authority which approved the dig! We would really expect better knowing than going in with a tractor on the Mount from IAA! And the Waqf ministry do not do excavations! They are not archaeologists!
And let´s stop hassling and get a framework for Jerusalem and it´s holy sites! And this has nothing to do with Shas or any other private interests, Israeli or Palestinian or Arab´s and their colonisation! Because Jerusalem and it´s holy sites is a world heritage as well as the Palestinians and the Israelis and we have seen enough destruction on one of the worlds most important cultural heritage to the whole world and should have been put under some international umbrella to save and preserve it a long time ago! We do not want to go through Jerusalem with the Palestinians on the "other side of the fence"! We do not come to Jerusalem for parking lots, fancy hotels, Mac Donald's or razzle and dazzle! And we do not want jets flying over our heads in Jerusalem or over the Temple Mount/Dome of The rock! Or listen to some f***** idiots that have argued for over 60 years who´s "own" what! Olmert's proposal could in fact protect both Palestinians, Israelis and every one else interests..
Life is not about "which owns what" of one of the worlds most important cultural heritage! And history is linked! And humans are linked through history who ever they are! History does not "jump over" some parts to please humans! OR Turks!
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas are scheduled to meet Sunday in Jerusalem, in what will most likely be their final meeting before the Kadima primary on September 17. Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said Saturday that he does not expect the two sides to conclude a joint document during September. Erekat made the comments Saturday following various reports that the Bush administration would like to present a joint document of understandings between Israel and the PA before the UN General Assembly in September.
Central in Olmert's proposal to the Palestinians is that the talks on sovereignty and control over the holy sites in Jerusalem be held under an international umbrella, where governments and other interested party will be able to contribute their views. The negotiations will be held directly between Israel and the Palestinians, and international parties will not be able to impose their views on a solution. The role of the international parties would be to bolster the agreement that the two sides will agree upon in direct negotiations. According to Olmert's proposal, a five-year timetable will be set out for completing a settlement on Jerusalem. The solution offered by the prime minister is to agree to a mechanism for discussing the issue of Jerusalem, and delay the substantive talks on the subject to the future.This is the first time that Israel has proposed involving international parties on the Jerusalem issue, even if their role will be limited to a consultative one. The idea was raised during the Camp David talks of 2000, when Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat argued that he does not have a mandate to decide the future of the holy sites - which are important to the entire Muslim world - and rejected the offer of then-prime minister Ehud Barak to divide Jerusalem.Olmert's proposal is meant to gain broad backing for the Palestinian leadership's decisions, and prevent any collapse of the agreement because of opposition from other countries and religious groups.Olmert is probably planning to include in the negotiations members of the international Quartet (the U.N., U.S., EU and Russia), as well as Jordan, Egypt. From Israel's point of view, broadening the international, inter-faith element only increases the chances of finding an acceptable agreement. Abbas and his closest aides presented Olmert's emissaries with a series of reservations, and argued that they were being offered a "partial agreement".
And let´s stop hassling and get a framework for Jerusalem and it´s holy sites! And this has nothing to do with Shas or any other private interests, Israeli or Palestinian or Arab´s and their colonisation! Because Jerusalem and it´s holy sites is a world heritage as well as the Palestinians and the Israelis and we have seen enough destruction on one of the worlds most important cultural heritage to the whole world and should have been put under some international umbrella to save and preserve it a long time ago! We do not want to go through Jerusalem with the Palestinians on the "other side of the fence"! We do not come to Jerusalem for parking lots, fancy hotels, Mac Donald's or razzle and dazzle! And we do not want jets flying over our heads in Jerusalem or over the Temple Mount/Dome of The rock! Or listen to some f***** idiots that have argued for over 60 years who´s "own" what! Olmert's proposal could in fact protect both Palestinians, Israelis and every one else interests..
Life is not about "which owns what" of one of the worlds most important cultural heritage! And history is linked! And humans are linked through history who ever they are! History does not "jump over" some parts to please humans! OR Turks!
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas are scheduled to meet Sunday in Jerusalem, in what will most likely be their final meeting before the Kadima primary on September 17. Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said Saturday that he does not expect the two sides to conclude a joint document during September. Erekat made the comments Saturday following various reports that the Bush administration would like to present a joint document of understandings between Israel and the PA before the UN General Assembly in September.
Central in Olmert's proposal to the Palestinians is that the talks on sovereignty and control over the holy sites in Jerusalem be held under an international umbrella, where governments and other interested party will be able to contribute their views. The negotiations will be held directly between Israel and the Palestinians, and international parties will not be able to impose their views on a solution. The role of the international parties would be to bolster the agreement that the two sides will agree upon in direct negotiations. According to Olmert's proposal, a five-year timetable will be set out for completing a settlement on Jerusalem. The solution offered by the prime minister is to agree to a mechanism for discussing the issue of Jerusalem, and delay the substantive talks on the subject to the future.This is the first time that Israel has proposed involving international parties on the Jerusalem issue, even if their role will be limited to a consultative one. The idea was raised during the Camp David talks of 2000, when Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat argued that he does not have a mandate to decide the future of the holy sites - which are important to the entire Muslim world - and rejected the offer of then-prime minister Ehud Barak to divide Jerusalem.Olmert's proposal is meant to gain broad backing for the Palestinian leadership's decisions, and prevent any collapse of the agreement because of opposition from other countries and religious groups.Olmert is probably planning to include in the negotiations members of the international Quartet (the U.N., U.S., EU and Russia), as well as Jordan, Egypt. From Israel's point of view, broadening the international, inter-faith element only increases the chances of finding an acceptable agreement. Abbas and his closest aides presented Olmert's emissaries with a series of reservations, and argued that they were being offered a "partial agreement".
And another "letter on the post"..
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney, one of Moscow's harshest critics, will go to Georgia and other former Soviet states this week to reinforce U.S. support for allies in Russia's backyard.
So..you believe the rest of the world would approve and claim it´s okay with Georgia going into other areas in some "cleansing missions" and just bomb a whole area and it´s population just like that? Nää just det! As little as we approve Russia going into Chechnya!
So..you believe the rest of the world would approve and claim it´s okay with Georgia going into other areas in some "cleansing missions" and just bomb a whole area and it´s population just like that? Nää just det! As little as we approve Russia going into Chechnya!
Like another "letter on the post"..
The official spokesman for the Political Bureau of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) in a statement responded the speeches made by Sheikh Humam Hamoudi, member of the Iraqi parliament, during his visit to Tehran on the proportion of budget allocated to Kurdistan Region. The statement reads as follows: The Al-Sharqia channel on August 30 covered news story about Mr. Humam Hamoudi’s visit to Tehran. The channel quoted Mr. Hamoudi as saying the 17% of the Iraqi budget allocated to the people of Kurdistan is more than the proportion due to them because their proportion cannot exceed 14%, and he linked this deal with other irrelevant issues.
We regret the issuance of such statements by senior officials including Mr. Humam Hamoudi. We would like to emphasize and clarify the following point: - Scourge and disasters befell the people of Kurdistan by the previous chauvinist governments ruled Iraq subsequently, particularly the defunct Baath regime which carried out genocide campaigns and Anfal, destroyed thousands of villages, used Chemical weapons against the Kurdish people…etc. instead of giving such statements, the Iraqi leaders should claim compensation for the people of Kurdistan for what happened to them. We remained silent and did not claim compensation because we take into account the circumstances surrounding Iraq. The losses that befell Kurdistan and its people cannot be estimated by any compensatory payments. But others were compensated though the losses befell them much less than what happened to the Kurds.
Mahmoud Sangawi, President Talabani’s representative to the Peshmerga forces expressed his resentfulness from the announcement of MP Humam Hamudi, the leadership in the Supreme Islamic Council concerning the Peshmerga forces. Hamudi announced from Iran yesterday that any Peshmerga will be suit if he was in the areas outside the latitude 36 degree. In an interview with al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper, Sangawi said “Hamudi is incapable of suiting any Peshmerga, either it was military or legally.”
The Iraqi Interior Ministry has ordered the members of the anti-Iranian Mujahedin-e-Khalq Organization (MKO) to quickly leave Iraq. An Iraqi official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that the Iraqi government has officially ordered the group to depart for a third country. He stated that MKO should respect Iraq's constitution where it bans foreign terrorist groups to threaten interests of the neighboring countries. Son of the head of Iraq's Supreme Islamic Council, Ammar Hakim, discussed the exit of MKO members from Iraq with the Iraqi minister of human rights. Iraqi Attorney General, Jafar al-Mousavi, had said that MKO members would be brought to justice based on international laws and regulations.
We regret the issuance of such statements by senior officials including Mr. Humam Hamoudi. We would like to emphasize and clarify the following point: - Scourge and disasters befell the people of Kurdistan by the previous chauvinist governments ruled Iraq subsequently, particularly the defunct Baath regime which carried out genocide campaigns and Anfal, destroyed thousands of villages, used Chemical weapons against the Kurdish people…etc. instead of giving such statements, the Iraqi leaders should claim compensation for the people of Kurdistan for what happened to them. We remained silent and did not claim compensation because we take into account the circumstances surrounding Iraq. The losses that befell Kurdistan and its people cannot be estimated by any compensatory payments. But others were compensated though the losses befell them much less than what happened to the Kurds.
Mahmoud Sangawi, President Talabani’s representative to the Peshmerga forces expressed his resentfulness from the announcement of MP Humam Hamudi, the leadership in the Supreme Islamic Council concerning the Peshmerga forces. Hamudi announced from Iran yesterday that any Peshmerga will be suit if he was in the areas outside the latitude 36 degree. In an interview with al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper, Sangawi said “Hamudi is incapable of suiting any Peshmerga, either it was military or legally.”
The Iraqi Interior Ministry has ordered the members of the anti-Iranian Mujahedin-e-Khalq Organization (MKO) to quickly leave Iraq. An Iraqi official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that the Iraqi government has officially ordered the group to depart for a third country. He stated that MKO should respect Iraq's constitution where it bans foreign terrorist groups to threaten interests of the neighboring countries. Son of the head of Iraq's Supreme Islamic Council, Ammar Hakim, discussed the exit of MKO members from Iraq with the Iraqi minister of human rights. Iraqi Attorney General, Jafar al-Mousavi, had said that MKO members would be brought to justice based on international laws and regulations.
Well...It´s like a letter on the post..Isn´t it..
MOSCOW (Reuters) - At least two Russian soldiers have been killed in bombings in Chechnya, including a suicide attack on a government camp, Russian news agencies reported on Saturday. One soldier was killed and 11 were wounded when two suicide bombers rammed a jeep packed with explosives through the fence of the Interior Ministry camp in Vedeno, south of the region's capital Grozny, a battalion spokesman was quoted as saying by RIA news agency.
A Vedeno resident who saw the aftermath of the blast said both attackers were killed in the blast. The woman, who saw the severed head of one of them, said he appeared to be in his teens. The camp, where Interior Ministry troops had been quartered in tents, burned to the ground, she said. Another soldier died in a radio-controlled bomb attack in the village of Serzhen-Yurt, which lies between Vedeno and the Chechen capital, Grozny, Russian agencies reported. It was the second round of fatal attacks on Russian troops in the past week in Chechnya, a North Caucasus territory where Russia has fought two wars against separatist rebels since the breakup of the Soviet Union.
On Sunday, two senior Russian officers were killed in an ambush on their convoy. Russian security officials said this week that Islamist militants in the North Caucasus region were planning a new wave of attacks.
Reporting by Melissa Akin; editing by Angus MacSwan
A Vedeno resident who saw the aftermath of the blast said both attackers were killed in the blast. The woman, who saw the severed head of one of them, said he appeared to be in his teens. The camp, where Interior Ministry troops had been quartered in tents, burned to the ground, she said. Another soldier died in a radio-controlled bomb attack in the village of Serzhen-Yurt, which lies between Vedeno and the Chechen capital, Grozny, Russian agencies reported. It was the second round of fatal attacks on Russian troops in the past week in Chechnya, a North Caucasus territory where Russia has fought two wars against separatist rebels since the breakup of the Soviet Union.
On Sunday, two senior Russian officers were killed in an ambush on their convoy. Russian security officials said this week that Islamist militants in the North Caucasus region were planning a new wave of attacks.
Reporting by Melissa Akin; editing by Angus MacSwan
And..
RAMALLAH, July 14, 2008 (WAFA) - Ministry of Agriculture said that %75 of agricultural lands in Gaza Strip were razed by Israeli Forces. He added that the loss of the agricultural sector in Gaza Strip was estimated at $ 33 million per year, stressing the necessity to support the agricultural sector in the coastal Strip through sending agricultural equipment as well as reactivating the role of agricultural engineers and guides.
The Palestinian opposition factions called for sparing the health and education sectors the political wrangling happening between the West Bank and the Gaza Strip and not to get dragged into it.
If the Palestinians shall return to a independent Palestinian state which Israel wishes for solutions for a two state solution there must be enough of a Palestinian state to return to! An idiot can figure that out! We have seen enough destruction of agricultural lands by suiciders and Israel, while Israel have a lot of agricultural lands on Golan heights which in a comprehensive peace should be returned to Syria which they lost after 16 years of terror and taking the whole region into war, both Israel and Palestinians needs agricultural lands left in other places! An idiot can figure that out!
The Mandela institute for human rights and political prisoners appealed to international humanitarian institutions especially the Red Cross to end the tragedy of Palestinian detainees in the investigation cellars of the Israeli Jalama prison, who went on a hunger strike in protest at the unjust incarceration conditions. Lawyer Buthaina Duqmaq, the head of the Mandela institute, stated that the Jalama prisoners decided to go on the hunger strike after all efforts made to stop their detention in isolation cells and to convince the prison administration to transfer them to central prisons failed. Lawyer Buthaina said that the IDF extended the detention of prisoners several times despite the fact it ended investigating them two months ago, and the prison administration refused to transfer them and end their isolation tragedy. The human rights activist pointed that the prison administration bars the prisoners from meeting their lawyers, the Red Cross and their next of kin, adding that prisoners complained about maltreatment and lack of health care.
The Palestinian opposition factions called for sparing the health and education sectors the political wrangling happening between the West Bank and the Gaza Strip and not to get dragged into it.
If the Palestinians shall return to a independent Palestinian state which Israel wishes for solutions for a two state solution there must be enough of a Palestinian state to return to! An idiot can figure that out! We have seen enough destruction of agricultural lands by suiciders and Israel, while Israel have a lot of agricultural lands on Golan heights which in a comprehensive peace should be returned to Syria which they lost after 16 years of terror and taking the whole region into war, both Israel and Palestinians needs agricultural lands left in other places! An idiot can figure that out!
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Kurdistan region president Masoud Brzni criticizes the Iraqi government that do not consider Kurdistan region as their partners and confirm that Kurdish leadership will not give up incorporating Kirkuk into Kurdistan region. In an interview with London based Sharq al Awsat newspaper issued on Saturday, Kurdistan region president said Iraqi government did not consider Kurdish people as real partners in running the country, neglecting the fact that the current government was based on a coalition Kurdish list constituted one of the main parties. He also described the tensions rose in Khanaqeen town as a big mistake, and called the parties to sit on a round table and solve it through dialogue.
And we hear a LOT of bullshit from Turkey..
Quoting:
"The reservations people have about saying ‘What happiness it is for one to be able to say I am a Turk’ should be eliminated.“
To be able to make intellectual discussion within the state does not mean that the components of state which hold it together are open to discussion.”
Where they still are discussing issues like the happiness to be able to say your are Turks like in the last century. And use Turkey’s major problems you have had for decades such as: ethnic identities, secularism, religious ideas, cultural identity, headscarves etc..To be guarded by your military which states that ethnically, there cannot be new rights under constitutional rule and that “Super-Identity is the Turkish nation." - With a German concentration camp, and representing NATO!
And goes on in some psychopathic twilight zone as if there are any ones wanting to eliminate the Turkish people to be happy to say they are Turks as a justification for your "Turkifications" where you use your military as a tool to deny other identities, human rights and calls for democracy, claiming you are a democracy! We have read several pages with Turkey's new military chief statements and a LOT of bullshit ending with your refusal to respond on calls for democracy, human rights, solutions and laying down arms all under the pretext to defend secularism.
The only ones taking away the Turkish people to be happy to say the are Turkish for decades and in history, are their leaders which have been and still are totally entangled in your own twilight zone to find justifications for breaking human rights and crimes against a whole people, sounding like Hamas, hiding your dictatorial management and Turkey´s ethnic cleansing of the Kurds you have been doing for decades together with Syria and Iran, in your military´s "secular problems" pretending to be a democracy where the components of the state are not open to discussion!
BULLSHIT!
"The reservations people have about saying ‘What happiness it is for one to be able to say I am a Turk’ should be eliminated.“
To be able to make intellectual discussion within the state does not mean that the components of state which hold it together are open to discussion.”
Where they still are discussing issues like the happiness to be able to say your are Turks like in the last century. And use Turkey’s major problems you have had for decades such as: ethnic identities, secularism, religious ideas, cultural identity, headscarves etc..To be guarded by your military which states that ethnically, there cannot be new rights under constitutional rule and that “Super-Identity is the Turkish nation." - With a German concentration camp, and representing NATO!
And goes on in some psychopathic twilight zone as if there are any ones wanting to eliminate the Turkish people to be happy to say they are Turks as a justification for your "Turkifications" where you use your military as a tool to deny other identities, human rights and calls for democracy, claiming you are a democracy! We have read several pages with Turkey's new military chief statements and a LOT of bullshit ending with your refusal to respond on calls for democracy, human rights, solutions and laying down arms all under the pretext to defend secularism.
The only ones taking away the Turkish people to be happy to say the are Turkish for decades and in history, are their leaders which have been and still are totally entangled in your own twilight zone to find justifications for breaking human rights and crimes against a whole people, sounding like Hamas, hiding your dictatorial management and Turkey´s ethnic cleansing of the Kurds you have been doing for decades together with Syria and Iran, in your military´s "secular problems" pretending to be a democracy where the components of the state are not open to discussion!
BULLSHIT!
Saturday, August 30, 2008
Yeah..!
The US-led coalition, the United Nations and Afghan officials will launch a joint probe into a deadly raid in western Afghanistan, to a top NATO official said Saturday. Brig. Gen. Richard Blanchette, the chief spokesman for the NATO-led force in Afghanistan, said the investigation would aim to clarify what happened during the Aug. 22 raid in the village of Azizabad in the western Herat province. The Afghan government and UN say some 90 civilians were killed. The US-led coalition maintains that 25 militants and five civilians died in the raid. Dan McNorton, a UN spokesman in Kabul, confirmed the decision to launch the joint probe.
You do that..So you don´t ending up like Turkey and Iran against the Kurds! Sort of speak..
You do that..So you don´t ending up like Turkey and Iran against the Kurds! Sort of speak..
So...
We have a "secret council" in Gaza now..well..it does really not surprises us as they are all USED..And so easy to be replaced whenever it fits..Just as the rest of the Palestinians, their cause, the Iranians, Lebanese, suiciders and every one else! F***** Wake up!
Everytime some people open their mouths we get more aware of which we "dealing with"
Iranian general: Any aggression would cause elimination of "fake or artificial regimes."
That would mean the elimination of the Iranian regime first then..Since they tricked the whole Iranian nation..Mass murdered Iranians which fled and then ended up with Iranians fighting and killing Iranians ..It´s the same cynical criminal use of Iranians as with the Kurds, the Pashtuns or any ones else! Hey Mr! You are standing on the "wrong side"..
That would mean the elimination of the Iranian regime first then..Since they tricked the whole Iranian nation..Mass murdered Iranians which fled and then ended up with Iranians fighting and killing Iranians ..It´s the same cynical criminal use of Iranians as with the Kurds, the Pashtuns or any ones else! Hey Mr! You are standing on the "wrong side"..
In what year are we exactly?
We are in the Jewish year 5768, while Christians believe that a literal reading of the numbers of the Bible would make the earth about 6,000 years old.
Yeah..It´s a bit odd..Isn´t it..B.C and A.D "compensate" it..maybe..
BC does stand for "before Christ." AD actually stands for the Latin phrase "anno domini" which means "in the year of our Lord." The B.C. / A.D. dating system is not taught in the Bible. It actually was not fully implemented and accepted until several centuries after Jesus' death. It is interesting to note that the purpose of the BC / AD dating system was to make the birth of Jesus Christ the dividing point of world history. However, when the B.C. / A.D. system was being calculated, they actually made a mistake in pinpointing the year of Jesus' birth. Scholars later discovered that Jesus was actually born in around 4-6 BC, not 0 AD. That is not the crucial issue. The birth, life, ministry, death, and resurrection of Christ are the "turning points" in world history. It is fitting, therefore, that Jesus Christ be the separation of "old" and "new." BC was "before Christ" and since His birth, we have been living "in the year of our Lord." Philippians 2:10-11
That would mean we should actually be in the year of 2012 or 2014..
Well...Jesus must have been someone really exceptional..
Yeah..It´s a bit odd..Isn´t it..B.C and A.D "compensate" it..maybe..
BC does stand for "before Christ." AD actually stands for the Latin phrase "anno domini" which means "in the year of our Lord." The B.C. / A.D. dating system is not taught in the Bible. It actually was not fully implemented and accepted until several centuries after Jesus' death. It is interesting to note that the purpose of the BC / AD dating system was to make the birth of Jesus Christ the dividing point of world history. However, when the B.C. / A.D. system was being calculated, they actually made a mistake in pinpointing the year of Jesus' birth. Scholars later discovered that Jesus was actually born in around 4-6 BC, not 0 AD. That is not the crucial issue. The birth, life, ministry, death, and resurrection of Christ are the "turning points" in world history. It is fitting, therefore, that Jesus Christ be the separation of "old" and "new." BC was "before Christ" and since His birth, we have been living "in the year of our Lord." Philippians 2:10-11
That would mean we should actually be in the year of 2012 or 2014..
Well...Jesus must have been someone really exceptional..
Doing the right thing..
BENGHAZI, Libya (Reuters) - Libya and Italy signed an accord on Saturday under which Italy will pay billions of dollars in compensation and investments for colonial misdeeds during its decades-long rule of the North African country. "This accord opens the door to the future cooperation and partnership between Italy and Libya," Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi said at the signing ceremony at a palace which was once the headquarters of the Rome government's senior official during the 1911-1943 colonial rule.
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said the accord ends "40 years of misunderstanding," adding that "it is a complete and moral acknowledgement of the damage inflicted on Libya by Italy during the colonial era." The "friendship pact" removes a major hurdle to an improvement in ties. Libya says Italian troops killed thousands of Libyans and drove thousands more from their villages and cities during the colonial era. "In this historic document, Italy apologizes for its killing, destruction and repression against Libyans during the colonial rule," Gaddafi said. Present day Italy is a friendly country, added Gaddafi, who expelled Italian residents and confiscated their property in 1970.
"Italian companies will set up more business in Libya," Berlusconi said, without giving details. Italian officials said earlier the deal covered "some billion dollars" in compensation and $5 billion in investments, including the construction of a highway across Libya from the Tunisian border to Egypt. It also involves a project to clear mines dating back to the colonial era. Italy expects in return to win energy contracts and for the Tripoli government to toughen security measures to stem the flow of illegal migrants, including joint maritime patrols.
In a goodwill gesture on Saturday, Italy returned an ancient statue of Venus taken to Rome during colonial rule, Libyan state media reported. The headless "Venus of Cyrene" was carried away from the town of Cyrene, an ancient Greek colony, by Italian troops and put on display in Rome.
On August 14 Libya signed a deal with the United States to settle both countries' claims for compensation for bombings.
By Salah Sarrar, Additional reporting by Philip Pullella in Rome, Lamine Ghanmi; editing by Mary Gabriel
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said the accord ends "40 years of misunderstanding," adding that "it is a complete and moral acknowledgement of the damage inflicted on Libya by Italy during the colonial era." The "friendship pact" removes a major hurdle to an improvement in ties. Libya says Italian troops killed thousands of Libyans and drove thousands more from their villages and cities during the colonial era. "In this historic document, Italy apologizes for its killing, destruction and repression against Libyans during the colonial rule," Gaddafi said. Present day Italy is a friendly country, added Gaddafi, who expelled Italian residents and confiscated their property in 1970.
"Italian companies will set up more business in Libya," Berlusconi said, without giving details. Italian officials said earlier the deal covered "some billion dollars" in compensation and $5 billion in investments, including the construction of a highway across Libya from the Tunisian border to Egypt. It also involves a project to clear mines dating back to the colonial era. Italy expects in return to win energy contracts and for the Tripoli government to toughen security measures to stem the flow of illegal migrants, including joint maritime patrols.
In a goodwill gesture on Saturday, Italy returned an ancient statue of Venus taken to Rome during colonial rule, Libyan state media reported. The headless "Venus of Cyrene" was carried away from the town of Cyrene, an ancient Greek colony, by Italian troops and put on display in Rome.
On August 14 Libya signed a deal with the United States to settle both countries' claims for compensation for bombings.
By Salah Sarrar, Additional reporting by Philip Pullella in Rome, Lamine Ghanmi; editing by Mary Gabriel
And while we are already at it..
Pakistan's army killed 30 terrorists in fresh fighting in the country's volatile northwest, the military said Saturday. Army spokesman Major Nasir Ali said the men died when the military backed by fighter jets destroyed some of their hideouts in Swat Valley on Friday. Swat was once a popular tourist destination, but has been the scene of intensified military action against al-Qaida- and Taliban-linked gunmen in recent weeks. Scores have reportedly been killed in tribal regions along the Afghan border.
How many terrorist can there really be left in the area after all this years? Or is it the last Pashtun tribal standing in the way for some f***** pipe line? You can not save the beautiful Waziristan land, the popular tourist valley, the last Pashtuns which were divided by the Britons just like the Kurds and have been kept divided and used just like the Kurds by psychopaths and take another route for it..Could you? ALL Pasthuns ain´t a Taliban-student-movement since the psychopaths were up in the north, or terrorists you know!
The same way as with the Kurds! Using village guards, Kurds against Kurds and arming ansar-al-Islam with both weapons, indoctrinated children and a suicide "religion"!
The Taliban rise is not a nationalist movement nor did it enlist support from the Pakistani or Afghan Pasthuns in the name of their ethnic identity. They were created by extending support to the politico-religious right over the past two decades, nourished and aided according to US and Pakistan combined strategy when the Muhajideen´s fought Russia. The strategy still remains the same - political maneuvering by the powerful elite in Pakistan to use religion dividing Pasthuns and denying their political rights. Obviously this cannot be achieved by siding with and supporting the largely liberal, secular and democratic minded majority of the Pasthuns; for the fear that the elite will have to relinquish the powers they hold over all ethnic minorities . Taliban has no roots in Pashtun society or culture that may be culturally conservative but is predominantly liberal, non-violent and democratic in nature. The ultimate losers in this senseless war are the poor Pasthuns on both sides of the Durand Line.
The same genocidal "war-fare"!
There is no "global-Suicide-religion"! JUST a few psychopaths and their f***** uranium which mass murdered the Iranian Muhajideen´s, and a genocidal "war-fare"! With people being so f***** willing to help them committing genocide on others while committing it on themselves!
How many terrorist can there really be left in the area after all this years? Or is it the last Pashtun tribal standing in the way for some f***** pipe line? You can not save the beautiful Waziristan land, the popular tourist valley, the last Pashtuns which were divided by the Britons just like the Kurds and have been kept divided and used just like the Kurds by psychopaths and take another route for it..Could you? ALL Pasthuns ain´t a Taliban-student-movement since the psychopaths were up in the north, or terrorists you know!
The same way as with the Kurds! Using village guards, Kurds against Kurds and arming ansar-al-Islam with both weapons, indoctrinated children and a suicide "religion"!
The Taliban rise is not a nationalist movement nor did it enlist support from the Pakistani or Afghan Pasthuns in the name of their ethnic identity. They were created by extending support to the politico-religious right over the past two decades, nourished and aided according to US and Pakistan combined strategy when the Muhajideen´s fought Russia. The strategy still remains the same - political maneuvering by the powerful elite in Pakistan to use religion dividing Pasthuns and denying their political rights. Obviously this cannot be achieved by siding with and supporting the largely liberal, secular and democratic minded majority of the Pasthuns; for the fear that the elite will have to relinquish the powers they hold over all ethnic minorities . Taliban has no roots in Pashtun society or culture that may be culturally conservative but is predominantly liberal, non-violent and democratic in nature. The ultimate losers in this senseless war are the poor Pasthuns on both sides of the Durand Line.
The same genocidal "war-fare"!
There is no "global-Suicide-religion"! JUST a few psychopaths and their f***** uranium which mass murdered the Iranian Muhajideen´s, and a genocidal "war-fare"! With people being so f***** willing to help them committing genocide on others while committing it on themselves!
Yeah yeah yeah..
Vladimir Putin, lashed out at Georgia and its Western supporters on Friday. Russia defended the honor and the lives of its citizens with its war in Georgia, Putin said in an interview with Germany's ARD television, arguing that it stuck to its mandate to help keep peace in South Ossetia. "Such a country will not be in isolation," Putin said in an excerpt shown on state-run Russian television. Putin also warned Europe not to do America's bidding and said Moscow did not fear Western sanctions.
You are very busy defending South Ossetia and occupied with the U.S. and Europe and everything else while the psychopaths with the same course of actions as al-Qaida don´t give a damn about any one saying anything about any uranium enrichment! Ain´t you!
Georgia has severed diplomatic ties with Moscow to protest the presence of Russian troops on its territory, and its president cast the far-confrontation over his country's fate as "a fight between the civilized and the uncivilized worlds."
Yeah yeah it´s so f***** civilized to go into a region in some "cleaning mission" instead of taking up the issue in a civilized way and then stand and scream with NATO and Europe behind your back totally absorbed by yourself while psychopaths are really busy with their f***** uranium! Isn´t it!
You are very busy defending South Ossetia and occupied with the U.S. and Europe and everything else while the psychopaths with the same course of actions as al-Qaida don´t give a damn about any one saying anything about any uranium enrichment! Ain´t you!
Georgia has severed diplomatic ties with Moscow to protest the presence of Russian troops on its territory, and its president cast the far-confrontation over his country's fate as "a fight between the civilized and the uncivilized worlds."
Yeah yeah it´s so f***** civilized to go into a region in some "cleaning mission" instead of taking up the issue in a civilized way and then stand and scream with NATO and Europe behind your back totally absorbed by yourself while psychopaths are really busy with their f***** uranium! Isn´t it!
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"We can't neglect our sons by giving an open immunity for anyone whether he is Iraqi or a foreigner."
That would mean it really doesn´t matter who is coming from where..If it´s a Iraqi or some one from Turkey, Syria, Iran, any other country in the region, China, Canada, The United States or Korpolongbolo..
That would mean it really doesn´t matter who is coming from where..If it´s a Iraqi or some one from Turkey, Syria, Iran, any other country in the region, China, Canada, The United States or Korpolongbolo..
Friday, August 29, 2008
Yeah..
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Hezbollah handed over a man suspected of firing at a Lebanese army helicopter into military authorities, a judicial official said Friday, amid media reports that the fatal shooting was a mistake by the militant group. Hezbollah critic and former legislator Fares Soeid asked whether the "Lebanese army needs permission to fly over Lebanese territories."Speaking Thurdsday to reporters, he wondered whether there is a "border between the state of Lebanon and the state of Hezbollah."
We bet Nasrallah wants the imam al-Sadr that founded Amal in 1975 back. Born in the Iranian holy city of Qom, al-Sadr came to Lebanon in 1959 to work for the rights of Shiites in the southern city of Tyre. In 1974, a year before Lebanon's 15-year civil war broke out, al-Sadr founded the Movement of the Deprived, attracting thousands of followers. The following year, he established Amal which Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri took over in the the Lebanese Resistance Brigades — which later fought in Lebanon's civil war. And who lived briefly in Michigan in the 1970s, and a U.S. branch of the charitable Sadr Foundation is based in Dearborn outside Detroit.
Since Al-Sadr was considered a moderate, urged cooperation with other faiths which must have been in opposite to the "Islamic revolution in Iran" which were based on a threat from the west and in which Islam were used, just as psychopaths having genocide on Muslims using it today, stood for strengthening of people, to uprising, and all Shiite resistance groups and movements were triggered by Imam al-Sadr's. In fact..Imam Mussa Sadr stood for everything in the opposite to the psychopaths and their "revolution", oppression and mass slaughter of Iranians, clerics and every possible resistance. And disappeared Aug. 31, 1978 the same season the psychopaths burned their own people in theatres in Iran to sacrifice them to blame others for it, just as they have put in system ever since, and had their "revolution" in which they came to execute and eliminate every moderate person they could/can. And after that had Hezbullah taking over his role in Lebanon and their Hezbullah/Amal theatre with Syria in Lebanon..After Nabih Berri where in Michigan in the 1970s and then took over Amal..
And later there was some super natural one legged person which means he could not walk properly but were flying around between Algeria and Lebanon, and he was in Syria twice where people sits and claim no ones know anything about any gasing of Kurds, and he was in Turkey twice which had "confessors" and by they way amuse themselves with poisoning baby goats nowadays, and he was in Iran twice which trapped and burned their own people.
As we said: We need some rest..
We bet Nasrallah wants the imam al-Sadr that founded Amal in 1975 back. Born in the Iranian holy city of Qom, al-Sadr came to Lebanon in 1959 to work for the rights of Shiites in the southern city of Tyre. In 1974, a year before Lebanon's 15-year civil war broke out, al-Sadr founded the Movement of the Deprived, attracting thousands of followers. The following year, he established Amal which Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri took over in the the Lebanese Resistance Brigades — which later fought in Lebanon's civil war. And who lived briefly in Michigan in the 1970s, and a U.S. branch of the charitable Sadr Foundation is based in Dearborn outside Detroit.
Since Al-Sadr was considered a moderate, urged cooperation with other faiths which must have been in opposite to the "Islamic revolution in Iran" which were based on a threat from the west and in which Islam were used, just as psychopaths having genocide on Muslims using it today, stood for strengthening of people, to uprising, and all Shiite resistance groups and movements were triggered by Imam al-Sadr's. In fact..Imam Mussa Sadr stood for everything in the opposite to the psychopaths and their "revolution", oppression and mass slaughter of Iranians, clerics and every possible resistance. And disappeared Aug. 31, 1978 the same season the psychopaths burned their own people in theatres in Iran to sacrifice them to blame others for it, just as they have put in system ever since, and had their "revolution" in which they came to execute and eliminate every moderate person they could/can. And after that had Hezbullah taking over his role in Lebanon and their Hezbullah/Amal theatre with Syria in Lebanon..After Nabih Berri where in Michigan in the 1970s and then took over Amal..
And later there was some super natural one legged person which means he could not walk properly but were flying around between Algeria and Lebanon, and he was in Syria twice where people sits and claim no ones know anything about any gasing of Kurds, and he was in Turkey twice which had "confessors" and by they way amuse themselves with poisoning baby goats nowadays, and he was in Iran twice which trapped and burned their own people.
As we said: We need some rest..
So while we are talking about a independent Palestinian state..
BAGHDAD - Omar Ahmed rarely emerges from his rundown Baghdad housing project. When he does, he leaves behind the Iraqi-issued ID card that marks him as a Palestinian and switches to the Iraqi dialect of Arabic at police checkpoints. The 23-year-old keeps a low profile because of repeated attacks and harassment of Palestinians, still resented by many Iraqis for what was perceived as their privileged status under Saddam Hussein. Ahmed's father was gunned down in a Baghdad street in 2005, one of an estimated 300 Palestinians killed in sectarian attacks since the fall of Saddam in 2003. In recent months, street violence has dropped sharply across the country. But the Palestinians, who number about 11,000 and mostly live in Baghdad, remain one of the most vulnerable groups, said Daniel Endres, the envoy of the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees in Iraq. They have no political clout and almost nowhere to go, with just a few countries willing to offer asylum to small groups — a hard lesson learned by some 3,000 Palestinians who remain stranded in U.N. tent camps on the Iraqi-Syrian border after fleeing homes in Iraq. The doors are even mostly closed to the Palestinian territories in the West Bank and Gaza. Israel controls the borders, and rarely grants residency to Palestinian exiles.
In recent days, Iraq's Shiite-led government has taken first steps to reach out to the community, which settled in Iraq after the 1948 Mideast war over Israel's creation and grew to 35,000 before the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. Starting next month, Palestinians will get new ID cards, replacing those from the Saddam era. The new cards state that bearers are to be treated like Iraqi citizens, according to a Palestinian diplomat in Baghdad, Dalil Qassous. Distributed with U.N. backing, the cards seek to reduce harassment at checkpoints and will make Palestinians eligible for some welfare payments. "Even though Iraq is in a difficult situation, we will give the Palestinians the utmost care," said government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh.
But many Iraqis still resent the Palestinians, who are Sunnis, for what they believe were unfair privileges granted to them by Saddam, including housing subsidies and draft exemptions. And many Palestinians remain suspicious of Iraqis. "I was born in Iraq, yet I am afraid of walking in the Iraqi capital," said Ahmed, who lives in Baghdad's largest Palestinian neighborhood, a complex of 16 apartment blocks surrounded by Shiite areas in the Baladiyat district.
After Saddam's ouster, the compound in Baladiyat and other Palestinian areas were repeatedly attacked by Shiite gunmen and security forces, particularly after the February 2006 bombing of an important Shiite shrine blamed on Sunni militants. Palestinians in Baladiyat say Iraqi troops would drive into their neighborhood and randomly fire at apartments. The compound also came under repeated mortar attack. In response, thousands fled, Qassous said. The area of four rows of apartment blocks, book-ended by two streets of mostly closed shops, still has a strong Palestinian flavor. "Long live our beloved Palestine," reads graffiti on a wall dotted by bullet holes. There's a Haifa internet cafe, a Jerusalem restaurant and a clinic run by the Palestinian Red Crescent.
A Palestinian nurse at the clinic, Lousiana Amir, said fear keeps her shuttling just between home and work, and that she stays in touch with Iraqi friends by phone. Her husband has been missing since being seized in a police raid in 2005. Amir, 25, said she would stay in Baghdad even if offered asylum elsewhere. "I feel it is my homeland," she said. Others want to leave, but are stuck since no country has been willing to absorb large numbers of Palestinian refugees. Neighboring Syria and Jordan have closed their border to the Palestinians. They took in Palestinian refugees after the 1948 and 1967 Mideast wars, but are now buckling under the burden of hundreds of thousands of displaced Iraqis.
Palestinians who were too afraid to stay in Baghdad fled to the Iraqi-Syrian border where the U.N. runs three tent camps in the desert. Endres, the refugee envoy, said the U.N. is trying to resettle everyone who wants to leave, particular those stuck in the camps. But it's been slow going with only a few countries, among them Iceland, Sweden, Brazil and Chile, agreeing to take a few hundred. "It's been very frustrating," said Endres. If new homes are not found, refugees could be moved to Sudan's capital of Khartoum for several years, as a way station. In any case, it's unlikely the largest camp, al-Walid with some 1,500 people, will be emptied out before next year, Endres said. Instead, the U.N. this week leveled ground for the camp to be rebuild because sewage puddles and garbage piles turned it into a health hazard. Food and water are trucked in from four hours away. A generator provides electricity for 10 hours a day, and the refugees run a clinic and a school attended by more than 400 children. With security improved, some camp residents have made brief trips back to Baghdad.
In the Tanaf camp, a few miles away on the Syrian side of the border, Mohammed al-Boukhari is preparing to leave for Sweden as part of a group of about 160 refugees. The 45-year-old, who worked as a fashion designer in Baghdad, spent more than two years in the camp, saying he used up almost all of his savings of $6,000. The father of two said he feels abandoned by Palestinian leaders in the West Bank, and largely blames them for his harsh life in the desert. "It's a crime committed against us by the Palestinian Authority," he said in a telephone interview. Azzam al-Ahmed, a former Palestinian deputy prime minister and longtime PLO envoy to Baghdad, said his government is trying to help those stranded in camps, but would like the others to remain in Iraq. Al-Ahmed and other officials played down the previous attacks on Palestinians, suggesting they were part of the general chaos. "Once this problem is solved, they would be safe like other Iraqis," he said. But Omar Ahmed, the young Baghdad resident, would leave if given a chance. "In this country, we have no hope and no future," he said.
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By KARIN LAUB and SAMEER N. YACOUB, AP, Mohammed Daraghmeh and Dalia Nammari in Ramallah, West Bank, contributed to this report.
So while we are talking about a independent Palestinian state..And Hamas are occupied being the biggest oppressors the Palestinians ever had taking them hostages for nothing but their own purposes. And psychopaths are having a genocide-suicide against their own people in Iraq claiming they have that against others. And 1 % of the Israelis are occupied with their f***** houses, some Palestinians among those 3.000 who remain stranded in U.N. tent camps on the Iraqi-Syrian border have been tortured and killed in the most horrific ways, looking the same with the same injures as the Arabs being tortured to death in south of Iran, just as in the camps in the 80´s and there have not been many that listens..More than U.N. workers, some countries that have taken in some Palestinians and now the Iraqi government..Are there?!
In recent days, Iraq's Shiite-led government has taken first steps to reach out to the community, which settled in Iraq after the 1948 Mideast war over Israel's creation and grew to 35,000 before the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. Starting next month, Palestinians will get new ID cards, replacing those from the Saddam era. The new cards state that bearers are to be treated like Iraqi citizens, according to a Palestinian diplomat in Baghdad, Dalil Qassous. Distributed with U.N. backing, the cards seek to reduce harassment at checkpoints and will make Palestinians eligible for some welfare payments. "Even though Iraq is in a difficult situation, we will give the Palestinians the utmost care," said government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh.
But many Iraqis still resent the Palestinians, who are Sunnis, for what they believe were unfair privileges granted to them by Saddam, including housing subsidies and draft exemptions. And many Palestinians remain suspicious of Iraqis. "I was born in Iraq, yet I am afraid of walking in the Iraqi capital," said Ahmed, who lives in Baghdad's largest Palestinian neighborhood, a complex of 16 apartment blocks surrounded by Shiite areas in the Baladiyat district.
After Saddam's ouster, the compound in Baladiyat and other Palestinian areas were repeatedly attacked by Shiite gunmen and security forces, particularly after the February 2006 bombing of an important Shiite shrine blamed on Sunni militants. Palestinians in Baladiyat say Iraqi troops would drive into their neighborhood and randomly fire at apartments. The compound also came under repeated mortar attack. In response, thousands fled, Qassous said. The area of four rows of apartment blocks, book-ended by two streets of mostly closed shops, still has a strong Palestinian flavor. "Long live our beloved Palestine," reads graffiti on a wall dotted by bullet holes. There's a Haifa internet cafe, a Jerusalem restaurant and a clinic run by the Palestinian Red Crescent.
A Palestinian nurse at the clinic, Lousiana Amir, said fear keeps her shuttling just between home and work, and that she stays in touch with Iraqi friends by phone. Her husband has been missing since being seized in a police raid in 2005. Amir, 25, said she would stay in Baghdad even if offered asylum elsewhere. "I feel it is my homeland," she said. Others want to leave, but are stuck since no country has been willing to absorb large numbers of Palestinian refugees. Neighboring Syria and Jordan have closed their border to the Palestinians. They took in Palestinian refugees after the 1948 and 1967 Mideast wars, but are now buckling under the burden of hundreds of thousands of displaced Iraqis.
Palestinians who were too afraid to stay in Baghdad fled to the Iraqi-Syrian border where the U.N. runs three tent camps in the desert. Endres, the refugee envoy, said the U.N. is trying to resettle everyone who wants to leave, particular those stuck in the camps. But it's been slow going with only a few countries, among them Iceland, Sweden, Brazil and Chile, agreeing to take a few hundred. "It's been very frustrating," said Endres. If new homes are not found, refugees could be moved to Sudan's capital of Khartoum for several years, as a way station. In any case, it's unlikely the largest camp, al-Walid with some 1,500 people, will be emptied out before next year, Endres said. Instead, the U.N. this week leveled ground for the camp to be rebuild because sewage puddles and garbage piles turned it into a health hazard. Food and water are trucked in from four hours away. A generator provides electricity for 10 hours a day, and the refugees run a clinic and a school attended by more than 400 children. With security improved, some camp residents have made brief trips back to Baghdad.
In the Tanaf camp, a few miles away on the Syrian side of the border, Mohammed al-Boukhari is preparing to leave for Sweden as part of a group of about 160 refugees. The 45-year-old, who worked as a fashion designer in Baghdad, spent more than two years in the camp, saying he used up almost all of his savings of $6,000. The father of two said he feels abandoned by Palestinian leaders in the West Bank, and largely blames them for his harsh life in the desert. "It's a crime committed against us by the Palestinian Authority," he said in a telephone interview. Azzam al-Ahmed, a former Palestinian deputy prime minister and longtime PLO envoy to Baghdad, said his government is trying to help those stranded in camps, but would like the others to remain in Iraq. Al-Ahmed and other officials played down the previous attacks on Palestinians, suggesting they were part of the general chaos. "Once this problem is solved, they would be safe like other Iraqis," he said. But Omar Ahmed, the young Baghdad resident, would leave if given a chance. "In this country, we have no hope and no future," he said.
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By KARIN LAUB and SAMEER N. YACOUB, AP, Mohammed Daraghmeh and Dalia Nammari in Ramallah, West Bank, contributed to this report.
So while we are talking about a independent Palestinian state..And Hamas are occupied being the biggest oppressors the Palestinians ever had taking them hostages for nothing but their own purposes. And psychopaths are having a genocide-suicide against their own people in Iraq claiming they have that against others. And 1 % of the Israelis are occupied with their f***** houses, some Palestinians among those 3.000 who remain stranded in U.N. tent camps on the Iraqi-Syrian border have been tortured and killed in the most horrific ways, looking the same with the same injures as the Arabs being tortured to death in south of Iran, just as in the camps in the 80´s and there have not been many that listens..More than U.N. workers, some countries that have taken in some Palestinians and now the Iraqi government..Are there?!
As we said: We need solutions - Not making things worse..
PARIS/MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia on Friday urged European Union leaders to put aside emotion when they decide what action to take against Russia over Georgia, and the bloc's appetite for sanctions appeared to be waning. Western governments have criticized Russia for sending troops deep into its ex-Soviet neighbor Georgia and recognizing Georgia's two breakaway regions as independent, drawing comparison with the rhetoric of the Cold War.
Diplomats said they received signals from the Kremlin that Russia would retaliate if the EU imposed punitive measures when leaders of the bloc, which depends on Russian energy imports, meet in Brussels on Monday. Russian oil companies and government officials denied a British newspaper report that they were preparing to restrict oil supplies in response to sanctions. A senior diplomat for EU president France said sanctions would not be adopted at the Brussels summit. That message contradicted remarks on Thursday by French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, who said sanctions were among the options on the table.
A spokesman for Russia's Foreign Ministry said some countries -- which he did not name - were trying to take the EU down "the road to confrontation." "We hope that reason will prevail over emotions, that EU leaders will find the courage to refrain from a one-sided assessment of the conflict," Andrei Nesterenko told a news conference in Moscow. In a interview on Thursday, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin accused the United States of orchestrating the conflict in Georgia - a charge the White House denied. Western states accused Russia of using excessive force and seeking to establish a permanent troop presence deep inside Georgia, a country the West views as a strategic transit route for energy exports from the Caspian Sea. The Kremlin said it acted to prevent Georgia wiping out the South Ossetian population and was staying on to prevent any further acts of aggression.
It has also accused the United States and NATO of adding to tension by deploying warships to the Black Sea, where the Russian navy has traditionally been dominant. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev showed signs of tiredness during a summit in Tajikistan this week at which Russia's closest regional allies gave only qualified support for the Kremlin's actions in Georgia. There was an indication the conflict over Georgia was jeopardizing that role when an oil producer said it was diverting some oil exports from a pipeline that passes through Georgia to a rival Russian route. Azerbaijan's state oil company SOCAR said it expected next year to send up to 400,000 tons of crude to a Russian pipeline and not the BP-led Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, citing instability in Georgia as one of the reasons.
By Conor Sweeney and Francois Murphy
Yeah..We need some rest as well..
Diplomats said they received signals from the Kremlin that Russia would retaliate if the EU imposed punitive measures when leaders of the bloc, which depends on Russian energy imports, meet in Brussels on Monday. Russian oil companies and government officials denied a British newspaper report that they were preparing to restrict oil supplies in response to sanctions. A senior diplomat for EU president France said sanctions would not be adopted at the Brussels summit. That message contradicted remarks on Thursday by French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, who said sanctions were among the options on the table.
A spokesman for Russia's Foreign Ministry said some countries -- which he did not name - were trying to take the EU down "the road to confrontation." "We hope that reason will prevail over emotions, that EU leaders will find the courage to refrain from a one-sided assessment of the conflict," Andrei Nesterenko told a news conference in Moscow. In a interview on Thursday, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin accused the United States of orchestrating the conflict in Georgia - a charge the White House denied. Western states accused Russia of using excessive force and seeking to establish a permanent troop presence deep inside Georgia, a country the West views as a strategic transit route for energy exports from the Caspian Sea. The Kremlin said it acted to prevent Georgia wiping out the South Ossetian population and was staying on to prevent any further acts of aggression.
It has also accused the United States and NATO of adding to tension by deploying warships to the Black Sea, where the Russian navy has traditionally been dominant. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev showed signs of tiredness during a summit in Tajikistan this week at which Russia's closest regional allies gave only qualified support for the Kremlin's actions in Georgia. There was an indication the conflict over Georgia was jeopardizing that role when an oil producer said it was diverting some oil exports from a pipeline that passes through Georgia to a rival Russian route. Azerbaijan's state oil company SOCAR said it expected next year to send up to 400,000 tons of crude to a Russian pipeline and not the BP-led Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, citing instability in Georgia as one of the reasons.
By Conor Sweeney and Francois Murphy
Yeah..We need some rest as well..
Argentine "dirty war" generals get life in prison
BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) - An Argentine court sentenced two former generals to life in prison on Thursday over the disappearance of a provincial senator during the 1976-1983 "dirty war" dictatorship. Human rights activists and relatives of the victim chanted "murderers" as the verdict was read out for Antonio Domingo Bussi, who was military governor of the northern province of Tucuman, and his superior, Luciano Benjamin Menendez.
Up to 30,000 people disappeared during Argentina's dirty war in a state crackdown on leftist dissent. Hundreds of people were kidnapped and killed in Tucuman alone, rights groups say. Bussi, 82, who wept during Thursday's hearing, built a political career after democracy returned to Argentina in 1983. He was elected in 1995 as governor of Tucuman, a sugar- and citrus-growing province that is among the country's poorest. At his trial, Bussi said he had sought to save his province and the country from communist aggression. He denied participating in the disappearance of former provincial senator Guillermo Vargas Aignasse, seized in 1976. Hundreds of demonstrators gathered outside the courtroom to hear the verdict. Scuffles broke out as some reacted angrily to the possibility the generals could serve the sentence at home or in a military facility instead of a prison. The court is set to announce where they will serve their sentences next month.
Menendez, 80, was in charge of several provinces in the country, making him Bussi's boss. In a separate ruling last month, he was given a life sentence in a prison for his role in the torture and killing of four leftists 31 years ago. Under ex-President Nestor Kirchner, courts and Congress scrapped pardons for military personnel involved in human rights crimes during the dictatorship. Since then courts have tried and convicted several military leaders of rights crimes.
Reporting by Cesar Illiano and Lucas Bergman; Writing by Helen Popper; Editing by Xavier Briand
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/11/16/argentine_torture_survivor_patricia_isasa_returns
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN07332719
FEDEFAM
http://www.desaparecidos.org/fedefam/eng.html
http://www.ciwr.org/documents_en/2006-12-22-fedefam.html
Simon, Hector Julio (1st Sergeant) Also known as "The Turk", "Julian the Turk"
Seineldín, Mohamed Alí. (Col.) A co-leader of the extreme Carapintadas military group who led a series of barrack uprisings against the democratic government of Alfonsín in 1987 and 1988, effectively blocking the judicial process against the responsible for the 1976-1983 repression.
http://www.yendor.com/vanished/junta.html#the-turk
One of the saddest points of the story is that very few of the abductors, torturers, and killers have been brought to a court of law, even fewer were indicted, and even those who were indicted and sentenced for long periods in jail, were released long before completing their sentences due to military pressure. Moreover: for every General or Admiral brought to trial there are thousands of petty officers and low ranking military men who took part in the atrocities. Most of them are still living among us, with impunity, as if nothing at all has happened.
http://www.yendor.com/vanished/
Up to 30,000 people disappeared during Argentina's dirty war in a state crackdown on leftist dissent. Hundreds of people were kidnapped and killed in Tucuman alone, rights groups say. Bussi, 82, who wept during Thursday's hearing, built a political career after democracy returned to Argentina in 1983. He was elected in 1995 as governor of Tucuman, a sugar- and citrus-growing province that is among the country's poorest. At his trial, Bussi said he had sought to save his province and the country from communist aggression. He denied participating in the disappearance of former provincial senator Guillermo Vargas Aignasse, seized in 1976. Hundreds of demonstrators gathered outside the courtroom to hear the verdict. Scuffles broke out as some reacted angrily to the possibility the generals could serve the sentence at home or in a military facility instead of a prison. The court is set to announce where they will serve their sentences next month.
Menendez, 80, was in charge of several provinces in the country, making him Bussi's boss. In a separate ruling last month, he was given a life sentence in a prison for his role in the torture and killing of four leftists 31 years ago. Under ex-President Nestor Kirchner, courts and Congress scrapped pardons for military personnel involved in human rights crimes during the dictatorship. Since then courts have tried and convicted several military leaders of rights crimes.
Reporting by Cesar Illiano and Lucas Bergman; Writing by Helen Popper; Editing by Xavier Briand
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/11/16/argentine_torture_survivor_patricia_isasa_returns
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN07332719
FEDEFAM
http://www.desaparecidos.org/fedefam/eng.html
http://www.ciwr.org/documents_en/2006-12-22-fedefam.html
Simon, Hector Julio (1st Sergeant) Also known as "The Turk", "Julian the Turk"
Seineldín, Mohamed Alí. (Col.) A co-leader of the extreme Carapintadas military group who led a series of barrack uprisings against the democratic government of Alfonsín in 1987 and 1988, effectively blocking the judicial process against the responsible for the 1976-1983 repression.
http://www.yendor.com/vanished/junta.html#the-turk
One of the saddest points of the story is that very few of the abductors, torturers, and killers have been brought to a court of law, even fewer were indicted, and even those who were indicted and sentenced for long periods in jail, were released long before completing their sentences due to military pressure. Moreover: for every General or Admiral brought to trial there are thousands of petty officers and low ranking military men who took part in the atrocities. Most of them are still living among us, with impunity, as if nothing at all has happened.
http://www.yendor.com/vanished/
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The last report of Human Rights Watch about the crimes of the fundamentalists in Afghanistan and specially the hanging of Saddam Hussain frightened the ruling killers in the country, who lost their wits and saw the end of their existence very close. They were determined to use all their power and dominance in the government, to block the way to their trial and annihilation.
Today blood-suckers such as Sayyaf, Rabbani, Qanoni, Muhaqiq, Khalili, Dostum, Fahim, Olumi, Ranjbar, Haji Farid, Mullah Rokitee, Perum Qul, Gulabzoy etc. have smile of victory on their faces because of this bill. All of them, whether Khalqi and Parchami types or Taliban and "Northern Alliance" types, have joined hands and formed a Saints alliance against our people to hide their brutality, crimes, and betrayals of their motherland, and extend their black sovereignty. At the same time they have provided the context to set free the sick executioners like Sarwari, Zardad and the like from the grasp of justice. There were no other honorable legislators, except Malalai Joya and few others, to raise their voices against the treacherous bill and stop its approval in the parliament.
If Human Rights Watch recently unveiled only some parts of the horrific war crimes committed by the fundamentalists, RAWA has made public the shocking crimes by the despots of last 30 years, and will not allow these religious or non-religious hangmen to rest. Our people want Sayaaf, Khalid Farooqi, Gulbudin etc. to taste the pain of the victims they have burnt in metal containers. They want Khalili, Muhaqiq, Kazimi and others to feel the pain of eye-gouging and driving nails into the skull of their victims, so each of them can then understand their terrible crimes against Pashtoons, Hazaras and other ethnic groups. Our people want Gulabzoy, Olomi, Ranjbar etc. to taste their crimes of mass-killings and burying alive. Our people want Mullah Rokitee, Mutawakil etc. to feel the pain of amputations and floggings. Only through a just prosecution they can realize the amount of barbaric atrocities and insults that they have committed against our people in the past.
http://www.rawa.org/events/warcrimes_e.htm
Today blood-suckers such as Sayyaf, Rabbani, Qanoni, Muhaqiq, Khalili, Dostum, Fahim, Olumi, Ranjbar, Haji Farid, Mullah Rokitee, Perum Qul, Gulabzoy etc. have smile of victory on their faces because of this bill. All of them, whether Khalqi and Parchami types or Taliban and "Northern Alliance" types, have joined hands and formed a Saints alliance against our people to hide their brutality, crimes, and betrayals of their motherland, and extend their black sovereignty. At the same time they have provided the context to set free the sick executioners like Sarwari, Zardad and the like from the grasp of justice. There were no other honorable legislators, except Malalai Joya and few others, to raise their voices against the treacherous bill and stop its approval in the parliament.
If Human Rights Watch recently unveiled only some parts of the horrific war crimes committed by the fundamentalists, RAWA has made public the shocking crimes by the despots of last 30 years, and will not allow these religious or non-religious hangmen to rest. Our people want Sayaaf, Khalid Farooqi, Gulbudin etc. to taste the pain of the victims they have burnt in metal containers. They want Khalili, Muhaqiq, Kazimi and others to feel the pain of eye-gouging and driving nails into the skull of their victims, so each of them can then understand their terrible crimes against Pashtoons, Hazaras and other ethnic groups. Our people want Gulabzoy, Olomi, Ranjbar etc. to taste their crimes of mass-killings and burying alive. Our people want Mullah Rokitee, Mutawakil etc. to feel the pain of amputations and floggings. Only through a just prosecution they can realize the amount of barbaric atrocities and insults that they have committed against our people in the past.
http://www.rawa.org/events/warcrimes_e.htm
Now.. make this clear:
Mr Nouri al-Maliki is an Iraqi! Mr Nouri al-Maliki is an Iraqi in Iraq! Not a Iranian or anything else..And there have been a lot of work to destabilize Iraq from different direction, not least from people with their own interests both outside and inside of Iraq! So..That´s it! We will not hear one more word of accusations or insinuations of how Mr Nouri al-Malik would do anything against the interests of all people in Iraq when there are a lot of others "in all camps" whether they are Shiite´s, Sunnis, Syrian´s psychopaths or even Turkish that have been doing that for a LONG time now!
And stop this squabbling between Peshmarga forces and Iraqi forces! You are all a part of creating the future of Iraq and shall be integrated with each other in Iraqi defence forces! That´s what we heard anyway..You will become a united Iraqi defence force. Are there any ones having problems with that integration or WHAT? While Iraqi recruits being attacked..
And it´s obvious that some people being released are potential targets. So we urge you to take security steps when there are such people being released.
The director general of al-Arabiyya TV, Abdelrahman al-Rashed, wrote in an article published by the London-based and Saudi-financed al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper about the court ruling against the Iraqi former minister of culture, Asaad Kamal al-Hashimi. Al-Rashed said that the murder has shocked everyone because the perpetrator is a minister and not a gang leader."The problem in Iraq is that you do not know who to believe! When the minister fled for his life and was absent from the court, with no lawyer to represent him, it was easy for al-Karkh Central Criminal Court judge to quickly hand down a death sentence in absentia against the minister," the author explained. On Saturday, an official spokesperson for the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Court told Aswat al-Iraq that the death sentence against Hashimi may be appealed.
Well..A court ruling in absentia is not anything unusual, but a death sentence in absentia is to us to jump over acceptable juridical procedures..A court order where some one is wanted being suspected for something yes..But a death sentence really need a justice process..We really shouldn´t have to tell you this..
And stop this squabbling between Peshmarga forces and Iraqi forces! You are all a part of creating the future of Iraq and shall be integrated with each other in Iraqi defence forces! That´s what we heard anyway..You will become a united Iraqi defence force. Are there any ones having problems with that integration or WHAT? While Iraqi recruits being attacked..
And it´s obvious that some people being released are potential targets. So we urge you to take security steps when there are such people being released.
The director general of al-Arabiyya TV, Abdelrahman al-Rashed, wrote in an article published by the London-based and Saudi-financed al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper about the court ruling against the Iraqi former minister of culture, Asaad Kamal al-Hashimi. Al-Rashed said that the murder has shocked everyone because the perpetrator is a minister and not a gang leader."The problem in Iraq is that you do not know who to believe! When the minister fled for his life and was absent from the court, with no lawyer to represent him, it was easy for al-Karkh Central Criminal Court judge to quickly hand down a death sentence in absentia against the minister," the author explained. On Saturday, an official spokesperson for the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Court told Aswat al-Iraq that the death sentence against Hashimi may be appealed.
Well..A court ruling in absentia is not anything unusual, but a death sentence in absentia is to us to jump over acceptable juridical procedures..A court order where some one is wanted being suspected for something yes..But a death sentence really need a justice process..We really shouldn´t have to tell you this..
Thursday, August 28, 2008
So..Conflict of interests? And what the heck did Britain had for "business" in Afghanistan in 1878?
(Reuters) - Moscow accused the West of heightening tension by a naval build-up in the Black Sea, and said talk of punishing Russia for recognizing the independence of two breakaway Georgian regions was the product of a "sick" and "confused" imagination. Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said in a CNN interview he suspected someone in the United States provoked the Georgia conflict to make the situation more tense and create "a competitive advantage for one of the candidates fighting for the post of U.S. president." Russian forces swept the Georgian army out of the rebel region and are still occupying some areas of Georgia proper. On Tuesday Moscow announced that it was recognizing South Ossetia and another breakaway region, Abkhazia, as independent states.
The United States and Europe have demanded Russia respect a French-brokered ceasefire and withdraw all its troops from Georgia, including a disputed buffer zone imposed by Moscow. France, the current EU president, has called a meeting of EU leaders on Monday to discuss the Georgian crisis, and its Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner told reporters that "sanctions are being considered and many other means as well." Moscow expressed alarm at a naval build-up in the Black Sea, an area normally dominated by its southern fleet. Washington has ordered the flagship of its Sixth Fleet, the sophisticated joint command ship Mount Whitney, to the area, saying it will deliver humanitarian supplies. A NATO official denied there was any build-up linked to the Georgia crisis, saying an alliance group of four warships were on a long-planned routine exercise. Russia's military has spoken of up to 18 NATO vessels being in, or expected to be in, the Black Sea. It has responded by sending the flagship of its Black Sea fleet, the guided-missile cruiser Moskva, to the Abkhaz port of Sukhumi, less than 200 km (120 miles) to the north of where the two U.S. warships are sailing.
So were did President Mikhail Saakashvili calls for discussions for ways to avoid discord for future generations together with Russia went in "all of this"?
TBILISI (Reuters) - Georgia's parliament approved a resolution on Thursday calling on the government to cut diplomatic ties with Russia after Moscow backed the secession of two Georgian rebel regions.
yeah..Where went those calls? We urge all to behave like adults! We wouldn´t have approved with Georgia going into South Ossetia in some "cleaning up campaign" mass killing a lot of people anyway! There have been a lot of civilians and soldiers killed because of this! Enough of "presidents playing with their soldiers!" Like big babies that have not grown out of their childhood but just switch out their toys to living people! Like in Israel where their soldiers have to babysit settlers where a small minority that makes up less than 1 percent of the total population and for whom settlement is the be-all and end-all, and at least 70 percent of those living outside of "settlement blocs" would happily accept compensation and come on aliya. And not mention Turkey that have used their youths and sacrificed soldiers to commit crimes for decades! And Britain that have sacrificed their people and youths in Afghanistan since 1878! What the heck did Britain do in Afghanistan in 1878 and had a LOT of people killed? We mean..HEELLO?! And how long shall we call Afghanistans, tribals and pashtuns for "The Taliban terrorist movement"? How many Taliban terrorists can there be left there after all this years ..One wonder! Or is it plain simple ethnically cleansing with Pashtuns fighting for their lives to not end up in containers? One wonder!
The United States and Europe have demanded Russia respect a French-brokered ceasefire and withdraw all its troops from Georgia, including a disputed buffer zone imposed by Moscow. France, the current EU president, has called a meeting of EU leaders on Monday to discuss the Georgian crisis, and its Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner told reporters that "sanctions are being considered and many other means as well." Moscow expressed alarm at a naval build-up in the Black Sea, an area normally dominated by its southern fleet. Washington has ordered the flagship of its Sixth Fleet, the sophisticated joint command ship Mount Whitney, to the area, saying it will deliver humanitarian supplies. A NATO official denied there was any build-up linked to the Georgia crisis, saying an alliance group of four warships were on a long-planned routine exercise. Russia's military has spoken of up to 18 NATO vessels being in, or expected to be in, the Black Sea. It has responded by sending the flagship of its Black Sea fleet, the guided-missile cruiser Moskva, to the Abkhaz port of Sukhumi, less than 200 km (120 miles) to the north of where the two U.S. warships are sailing.
So were did President Mikhail Saakashvili calls for discussions for ways to avoid discord for future generations together with Russia went in "all of this"?
TBILISI (Reuters) - Georgia's parliament approved a resolution on Thursday calling on the government to cut diplomatic ties with Russia after Moscow backed the secession of two Georgian rebel regions.
yeah..Where went those calls? We urge all to behave like adults! We wouldn´t have approved with Georgia going into South Ossetia in some "cleaning up campaign" mass killing a lot of people anyway! There have been a lot of civilians and soldiers killed because of this! Enough of "presidents playing with their soldiers!" Like big babies that have not grown out of their childhood but just switch out their toys to living people! Like in Israel where their soldiers have to babysit settlers where a small minority that makes up less than 1 percent of the total population and for whom settlement is the be-all and end-all, and at least 70 percent of those living outside of "settlement blocs" would happily accept compensation and come on aliya. And not mention Turkey that have used their youths and sacrificed soldiers to commit crimes for decades! And Britain that have sacrificed their people and youths in Afghanistan since 1878! What the heck did Britain do in Afghanistan in 1878 and had a LOT of people killed? We mean..HEELLO?! And how long shall we call Afghanistans, tribals and pashtuns for "The Taliban terrorist movement"? How many Taliban terrorists can there be left there after all this years ..One wonder! Or is it plain simple ethnically cleansing with Pashtuns fighting for their lives to not end up in containers? One wonder!
Abbas: Palestinians should not linger in Lebanon
BEIRUT (AFP) - Palestinian refugees in Lebanon should not be permanently resettled in the country, Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas said on Thursday after talks in Beirut with Lebanese President Michel Sleiman. The Palestinians have the right of return and this is an issue we are discussing with the Israelis, Abbas told a media conference after the meeting."We are against the resettlement of Palestinians in Lebanon," he added. An estimated 400,000 Palestinian refugees live in 12 camps in Lebanon. Most of Palestinian refugees came to Lebanon when the state of Israel was created in 1948. Abbas said that any solution with Israel should be wide-ranging and address all issues."I told the president if we want to reach a solution with Israel, it should be a comprehensive one," Abbas told reporters. Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said this week that the "right of return" is incompatible with the creation of a Palestinian state.
The Palestinian camps in Lebanon are considered to be be unstable, with security incidents taking place frequently and extremist groups often taking advantage of the poor state of the camps. Abbas, whose last visit to Beirut in 2004 was the first for a Palestinian official in 22 years, was during his two-day visit to meet Prime Minister Fuad Siniora and parliament speaker Nabih Berri as well as Palestinian officials.
Or in camps at the border between Syria and Iraq..And to us this "right of return" seems to be a word that is putting obstacles in the way for Palestinians to return at all! It was a part added by the Syrian regime and we have had enough of Palestinians being used in others interests and suffered in camps in Lebanon ever since! We have had enough of people being totally absorbed by themselves for decades with no Palestinians returning at all! Palestinians in Lebanon have a right to return to a independent Palestinians state! The Palestinians have the right to a independent Palestinian state! Palestinians have right to self-determination and a own place on this planet and we have had enough of people standing in the way for these human rights for nothing but their OWN interests!Palestinians have been hostages by psychopaths and their own leaders enough!
The Palestinian camps in Lebanon are considered to be be unstable, with security incidents taking place frequently and extremist groups often taking advantage of the poor state of the camps. Abbas, whose last visit to Beirut in 2004 was the first for a Palestinian official in 22 years, was during his two-day visit to meet Prime Minister Fuad Siniora and parliament speaker Nabih Berri as well as Palestinian officials.
Or in camps at the border between Syria and Iraq..And to us this "right of return" seems to be a word that is putting obstacles in the way for Palestinians to return at all! It was a part added by the Syrian regime and we have had enough of Palestinians being used in others interests and suffered in camps in Lebanon ever since! We have had enough of people being totally absorbed by themselves for decades with no Palestinians returning at all! Palestinians in Lebanon have a right to return to a independent Palestinians state! The Palestinians have the right to a independent Palestinian state! Palestinians have right to self-determination and a own place on this planet and we have had enough of people standing in the way for these human rights for nothing but their OWN interests!Palestinians have been hostages by psychopaths and their own leaders enough!
Iraqi official detained at Baghdad airport. And attackers opened fire on a Lebanese military helicopter
BAGHDAD - U.S. forces arrested a top Shiite official in Iraq's government as he stepped off a plane in Baghdad, a political ally said Thursday, and a U.S. military intelligence official linked the man to a June bombing that killed four Americans and six Iraqis. Ali al-Lami's arrest raised fresh concerns about Iranian and Shiite militia influence in the top ranks of Iraq's leadership. Without naming al-Lami, the U.S. military in Iraq said the suspect arrested Wednesday evening is believed to be a senior leader of "special groups" — Iranian-backed militiamen in Iraq.
Al-Lami was in charge of that task, as head of a committee that screens former Baath party members. He and his family were returning to Baghdad from Lebanon, where he underwent medical treatment, when he was arrested at the city's international airport, said Qaiser Watout, a member of al-Lami's committee. U.S. troops were waiting for al-Lami as the plane's doors opened, Watout said, adding that his family was allowed to proceed. "We condemn this act," Watout said. "Al-Lami was a moderate official and we are surprised by his arrest."The U.S. military confirmed it arrested a senior Shiite figure Wednesday, but would not release the name or say whether it was al-Lami. The military said the man, who was known to travel to Iran and Lebanon, was detained after his plane landed at the airport. The U.S. military intelligence official in Iraq confirmed al-Lami's arrest. The military said the detainee is believed to be behind the June attack that killed 10 people, including two U.S. soldiers and two American civilians, in a district council building in Baghdad's Shiite slum of Sadr City, the military said.
Iraqi officials have said it appeared to be an inside job and suspicion at the time fell on the headquarters' Shiite Muslim guard force. The Iraqi Defense Ministry also said it appeared the Iraqi council members and not the Americans were the main target of the blast, which came ahead of an election to choose a new chairman of the council.
The bombing hit as the U.S. military and civilian officials were stepping up efforts to promote the local administration and restore services in Sadr City and other areas, amid a sharp drop in violence. Meanwhile, anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr released a statement saying his largely disbanded Mahdi Army militia would extend its cease-fire "until further notice."The statement, which was read by an aide in the Iraqi holy city of Najaf, also warned that any "person who violates" the truce would no longer be considered part of the Mahdi Army. Last month, al-Sadr, who lives in Iran but retains significant clout in Iraq, announced he was transforming his militia into a social welfare body with a few guerrilla cells to attack U.S. troops if Washington doesn't agree to leave Iraq. Separately, the U.S. military said an American soldier died of wounds he received after coming under fire while patrolling northern Baghdad on Wednesday. Another U.S. soldier was killed in a roadside bomb attack while on patrol Thursday in Baghdad, the military said.
By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, AP, reporter Pamela Hess in Washington contributed to this report.
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Attackers opened fire on a military helicopter Thursday, killing a Lebanese army officer and forcing the craft to make an emergency landing, a senior security official said. Details about the incident were sketchy, but the official said the helicopter was on a training mission when it came under fire and was forced down in the southern highland region of Iqlim al Tuffah province. No one else in the crew was hurt, he said, speaking on customary condition of anonymity in line with military regulations. The area is a predominantly Shiite, apple-growing region southeast of the southern port city of Sidon, far from Lebanon's sensitive Syrian and Israeli borders. It's also a stronghold of Hezbollah, the Shiite Muslim group, which is believed to have bases and positions there. The area has not had clashes between Hezbollah guerrillas and Lebanese troops in the past, and the group has verbally condemned previous attacks on the army. The Lebanese army has clashed with Sunni militants, particularly in the north, and the military has recently been targeted. A bus bombing earlier this month in the northern city of Tripoli killed 18 people, including 10 soldiers. Last month, unknown gunmen attacked a Lebanese military post in remote northeastern Lebanon, killing one soldier and wounding another.
By ZEINA KARAM, AP
Al-Lami was in charge of that task, as head of a committee that screens former Baath party members. He and his family were returning to Baghdad from Lebanon, where he underwent medical treatment, when he was arrested at the city's international airport, said Qaiser Watout, a member of al-Lami's committee. U.S. troops were waiting for al-Lami as the plane's doors opened, Watout said, adding that his family was allowed to proceed. "We condemn this act," Watout said. "Al-Lami was a moderate official and we are surprised by his arrest."The U.S. military confirmed it arrested a senior Shiite figure Wednesday, but would not release the name or say whether it was al-Lami. The military said the man, who was known to travel to Iran and Lebanon, was detained after his plane landed at the airport. The U.S. military intelligence official in Iraq confirmed al-Lami's arrest. The military said the detainee is believed to be behind the June attack that killed 10 people, including two U.S. soldiers and two American civilians, in a district council building in Baghdad's Shiite slum of Sadr City, the military said.
Iraqi officials have said it appeared to be an inside job and suspicion at the time fell on the headquarters' Shiite Muslim guard force. The Iraqi Defense Ministry also said it appeared the Iraqi council members and not the Americans were the main target of the blast, which came ahead of an election to choose a new chairman of the council.
The bombing hit as the U.S. military and civilian officials were stepping up efforts to promote the local administration and restore services in Sadr City and other areas, amid a sharp drop in violence. Meanwhile, anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr released a statement saying his largely disbanded Mahdi Army militia would extend its cease-fire "until further notice."The statement, which was read by an aide in the Iraqi holy city of Najaf, also warned that any "person who violates" the truce would no longer be considered part of the Mahdi Army. Last month, al-Sadr, who lives in Iran but retains significant clout in Iraq, announced he was transforming his militia into a social welfare body with a few guerrilla cells to attack U.S. troops if Washington doesn't agree to leave Iraq. Separately, the U.S. military said an American soldier died of wounds he received after coming under fire while patrolling northern Baghdad on Wednesday. Another U.S. soldier was killed in a roadside bomb attack while on patrol Thursday in Baghdad, the military said.
By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, AP, reporter Pamela Hess in Washington contributed to this report.
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Attackers opened fire on a military helicopter Thursday, killing a Lebanese army officer and forcing the craft to make an emergency landing, a senior security official said. Details about the incident were sketchy, but the official said the helicopter was on a training mission when it came under fire and was forced down in the southern highland region of Iqlim al Tuffah province. No one else in the crew was hurt, he said, speaking on customary condition of anonymity in line with military regulations. The area is a predominantly Shiite, apple-growing region southeast of the southern port city of Sidon, far from Lebanon's sensitive Syrian and Israeli borders. It's also a stronghold of Hezbollah, the Shiite Muslim group, which is believed to have bases and positions there. The area has not had clashes between Hezbollah guerrillas and Lebanese troops in the past, and the group has verbally condemned previous attacks on the army. The Lebanese army has clashed with Sunni militants, particularly in the north, and the military has recently been targeted. A bus bombing earlier this month in the northern city of Tripoli killed 18 people, including 10 soldiers. Last month, unknown gunmen attacked a Lebanese military post in remote northeastern Lebanon, killing one soldier and wounding another.
By ZEINA KARAM, AP
Well..
Afghanistan President pardons men convicted for bayonet-gang rape.The police and the courts are usually under the sway of local commanders. “The commanders, the war criminals, still have armed groups. “They’re in the government. Karzai, the Americans, the British sit down with them. They have impunity. They’ve become very courageous and can do whatever crimes they like.” “We’ve already lost our son, our honour, we’ve sold our land to pay for legal costs and we’ve lost our home – what else can we lose?”
We really had enough of this..
Violence has surged in Afghanistan with more than 2,500 people, including 1,000 civilians, killed in the conflict in the first six months of this year, according to aid agencies. "Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) and coalition forces killed over 100 insurgents during combat operations in Helmand province August 25-28," the U.S. military said in a statement.
Mainly British troops have been engaged in heavy fighting with Taliban militants in Helmand province for three years.
Yeah..And which are those civilians killed? British troops have been there since 1878, killing people from the ancient tribes of Israel! And then goes to mass! Just as the Russians and the U.S! The "Talibans" was a "student movement" founded by psychopaths and there can not be many of them left by now! And after what we can understand how people were mass murdered after surrender they are now fighting for their survival with NATO refusing to respond on calls for case -fires and solutions! JUST as with the Kurds. Where people use other people in their own interests and supply them with Russian weapons which have been distributed to them by psychopaths so they can stand against NATO which having ethnically cleanings for them!
Mainly British troops have been engaged in heavy fighting with Taliban militants in Helmand province for three years.
Yeah..And which are those civilians killed? British troops have been there since 1878, killing people from the ancient tribes of Israel! And then goes to mass! Just as the Russians and the U.S! The "Talibans" was a "student movement" founded by psychopaths and there can not be many of them left by now! And after what we can understand how people were mass murdered after surrender they are now fighting for their survival with NATO refusing to respond on calls for case -fires and solutions! JUST as with the Kurds. Where people use other people in their own interests and supply them with Russian weapons which have been distributed to them by psychopaths so they can stand against NATO which having ethnically cleanings for them!
Yeah..
We have a newly elected President in Russia that wants to play with his missiles and soldiers..Just as the newly elected president of Turkey wanted to play with his soldiers against the Kurds..And soon we have a new elected president in the U.S.
The only "presidents" that sits on their places acting the same YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT are the psychopaths in Iran and Syria!
Idiots!
The only "presidents" that sits on their places acting the same YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT are the psychopaths in Iran and Syria!
Idiots!
The Israelites in exile after Assyrians mass deportations
We can find people whose culture and heritage show amazing resemblances with the ancient Israelites.
Many others of the Northern Kingdom took refuge in Judah when Assyrians began to perform mass deportations, and others that remained were not even taken into exile. The Scriptures attest that the Kings of Judah ruled over all the Tribes of Israel after the Northern Kingdom disappeared as a political entity (see references to Kings Hizkiyahu and Yoshiyahu in Dibre Hayamim II, chapters 15, 30, 31, 34). On the other hand, when Sennakherib invaded Judah and besieged Jerusalem without success, he returned back to Assyria carrying more than 200 thousand captives from Judah, consequently, the Assyrian exile concerned both Kingdoms and all the Tribes, not only the Northern ones. About 120 years later, also the inhabitants of Judah were taken into exile in Babylon. After the fall of Babylon, the Persian kings allowed all Israelites, regardless their former status as Northern or Southern, and without tribal distinction, to return back to Eretz Yisrael. A reduced number of them resettled back in their homeland. The majority of the Jews preferred to stay in their new country. Babylon became the main Jewish cultural centre of the Middle East.The historian Josephus confirms that the vast majority of Jews chose to remain in Asia rather than join the pioneers who rebuilt Yerushalaym. He records that Jews came from all over the Parthian empire to attend the Jewish celebrations in Yerushalaym, and that when the festivals were over, most of the multitude returned to "their own countries" (the different regions were they were settled). The Megillah of Esther attests that the Jews were so numerous and dispersed throughout the empire that any decree concerning them had to be sent to all 127 Persian provinces, from India to Ethiopia.
The Israelites in exile, both those of the Northern Kingdom as well as those of Judah, dwelled for centuries in territories under the same imperial sovereignty: Babylonian, Persian, Macedonian, Seleucian, Ashkanian (Parthian), Sassanian. These empires extended their dominion over Central Asia and the northwest of the Indian Sub-continent. From their original settlements, many Israelites followed the most natural route in those times in search for a better future: the Silk Road, that led them to the east, reaching lands as far as the Chinese shores of the Pacific Ocean.The earliest Israelite migrations along the Silk Road began after the fall of Nineveh and before the fall of Yerushalaym under Nebukhadnetzar, during the short transition period in which the Neo-Babylonian Empire consolidated. This is the origin of Bukharian Jews, that kept their Jewish identity along history, and are in some way related to most Hebrew communities in Asia.
Other Israelites in the same period may have gone even farther. There is an apocryphal book ascribed to Ezra that contains an interesting statement that might have any historical background, perhaps transmitted by oral tradition: it declares that the Northern Tribes exiled by Assyrians decided to emigrate to a distant land never yet inhabited by man, and there at last to be obedient to their laws, which in their own country they had failed to keep. Their journey took a year and a half, and reached the land called "Arzareth". This land name does not exist, but there are some possible interpretations: the Hebrew words "eretz ahereth" (arz-ah'r'th) , meaning "the other land", or also "eretz aherith" (arz-ah'rith), meaning "the land's end" or "the most far away land". Such land might be China, or even Japan. Also the Scriptures mention where many Israelites are to be found: "Behold, these shall come from far away, and see, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim."
- Yeshayahu 49:12 The "land of Sinim" in Hebrew is no other than China! We know that a relevant number of the descendants of the exiled Israelites wandered progressively eastwards, and that there was an active trade in those times between China and the west. Therefore, it is feasible that many of them moved to settle in the outposts that flourished along the interconnecting caravan trails, as well as in way stops and coastal cities. Among the many possible Jewish settlements in China, a certain one is the ancient capital, Kaifeng. Jewish merchants and their families from the west arrived and settled in Kaifeng finding acceptance of their customs and freedom from persecution. Thus started one of the most remarkable stories of a Jewish community that existed isolated from any outside Jewish contact. Completely unknown to the western world, the Jews of Kaifeng maintained a Synagogue, mikveh, kept kasruth and practised berith milah for nearly one millennium. Many natural catastrophes destroyed the city and after several rebuilding, the Synagogue fell into ruin after the last flooding in the 19th century c.e. There were no more Rabbis and the community became progressively assimilated. To this day, several hundred residents of the old Chinese capital continue to think of themselves as descendants of the House of Israel. They hold firm to this belief despite the fact that their features are indistinguishable from those of their neighbours, they have had no Rabbi for about two centuries, no Synagogue or other communal organization for several generations, and remember virtually nothing of the faith and traditions of their ancestors. Until today, the street on which many of them now live is named "The Way of the People that Teaches the Scriptures"; quite an unusual name for a small street in the middle of China.
Even though by "Hebrew" we understand "Israelite" or "Jew", the same term may be suitable to define a larger group, known as "Habiru", that refers mainly to the Avrahamic peoples, a branch of the Semitic stock.This means that, peoples having many resemblances and common cultural heritage with Jews may be descendant of the pre-Israelite Hebrews, and not necessarily from the Israelites in Diaspora. Therefore, it is more accurate to include the peoples in a larger group rather than a more restricted one: for example, the Hyksos were Habiru, though they might have been Israelites - this second possibility is suggested, but not thoroughly proven. The Roma (Gypsies) might be descendants of the Hyksos, they are in some way related to Israelites, but it is more accurate to classify them among the descent of the Habiru. It is known that in later times they were dwelling in Northwestern India, from where they migrated westwards, and it is in this area where a relevant number of Hebrew-like peoples have been found. Some of them have been recognized by the State of Israel and have performed Aliyah (see Jews of India). These peoples of the Indian and Turkestan regions are very likely of genuine Israelite origin, related to the post-exilic period. Documented sources prove that a large number of the Northern Israelites exiled by the Assyrians migrated beyond the eastern boundaries of the Persian Empire, namely, the Indus Basin, Rajasthan, Pundjab, and also towards the Pamir and China.
Josephus wrote: "...the Ten Tribes who are beyond the Euphrates till now, and are an immense multitude, whose numbers cannot be estimated." (Antiquities 11:2) He attested that in the first century c.e., the Northern Tribes of Israel were an immense multitude "beyond Euphrates River", this means in the lands to the east of Mesopotamia. How far to the east, it is not specified.
The Khyber Pass is the best natural land route to India through the Hindu Kush mountain range. It has been not only a major trade route for centuries, but also an entry point for conquering armies carrying on their invasions. A very interesting curiosity is that "Khyber" seems to be a Hebrew name: its meaning is related to the Hebrew root chet-bet-resh, the verb "to connect", "to couple", "to join", implying also partnership, junction, intimate union. Even though this term may not be Hebrew, no other possible etymology has yet been found.
Kashmiris light a candle for the Shabbath, and celebrate in Spring a festival that they call Paskha; in this period they adjust their lunar calendar with the solar year, and the way they do it is similar to the Jewish system. Even their language has many Hebrew words. Kashmiris' character, style of clothing, traditions and habits resemble those of Israelis. The head cover of the old Kashmiri women is quite like the one for Israeli women. The majority of the old graves in Kashmir are aligned in east-west direction like the Jewish graves, whereas the Moslem graves are in the north-south direction. There is a group of Kashmiri people that still today call themselves "B'ney Yisrael", meaning "Children of Israel" (different from the B'ney Yisrael of India, now fully recognized by the State of Israel as Jewish). They assert that this is the original name of all the people of Kashmir in ancient times. The names of the Kashmiri tribes are amazingly very similar to the Tribes of Israel, and according to these names it is likely that they reached the Valley of Kashmir in different periods: one is called the Tribe of Israel, another is Abri [meaning "Hebrew"], and the tribe of Kahana [like the Hebrew word for priest], as well as the Tribes of Musa (Mosheh), Shaul, and Shulaymanish (Shlomoh) seem to indicate a migration before the Kingdom was divided. Other names correspond to single Israelite Tribes, like Gadha as Gad, Asheriya as Asher, Dand as Dan, and even Lavi as Levi. More than three-hundred places in Kashmir have names that sound very familiar to ancient Israelites, mainly to the inhabitants of the Northern Kingdom. Some of these places are Mamre, Gilgit (Gilgal), Nabudaal (Nevo), Pishgah (Pisgah), Heshba (Heshbon), Bushan (Bashan), Medianpura (Midyan), Amunah (Amon), Goshan (Goshen, the region in Egypt where Israelites sojourned), Guzana (Gozan, that in Assyrian language is Guzana, one of the places where the Northern Tribes were sent in exile), and there is even Samaryah. Besides toponyms, also many names of people, male and female, are typically Hebrew.
Tribes that were exiled in Assyria in 3039 (722 b.c.e.). According to an Apocryphon ascribed to Ezra and other ancient records, many of these Israelites decided to emigrate into a distant country in the east. Along their route, many of them reached the Kashmir Valley and settled there.
The Persian Empire dominated a vast area of Asia and established commercial routes to the east. The Israelites in exile move freely within the empire, and many of them settled in Balkh, an important city between India and Central Asia. Balkh was the capital of the ancient Bactria, that roughly corresponds to modern Afghanistan. This land was rich in camels and horses; Parthians widely used the Bactrian camels to transport supplies for their army, and Bactrian horses were essential for their cavalry. The original inhabitants of this region were largely Scythian, but the succeeding empires that ruled over the land enabled colonization and the population became heterogeneous. Many Israelites were sent there as soldiers to keep control of the eastern borders, and even a group of Libyan Jews were deported there by the Persian king after a revolt in Libya.
Descend the present-day Afghans, also known as Pashtun.
According to their own tradition (explained in different versions), their eponym ancestor was Afghana, son of Yirmiah, son of Melek Talut (King Shaul). Afghana is said to have served at the court of Kings David and Shlomoh after his father and grandfather died in the same battle. The circumstances related to Afghana lead in some way to identify him with Mephivoshet, and his father Yirmiah with Yehonathan. There is also an explanation to the origin of their ethnic name, Pashtun, saying that they are descendants of Pithon, who was indeed Mephivoshet's grandson (1 Chronicles 8:35). The Afghan royal house was well acquainted of these facts concerning Israelite history, tracing their lineage to the Tribe of Binyamin. Nevertheless, the meaning of the term "Pashtun" or "Pathan" seems to have a different etymology, and the alleged relation with Pithon is to be considered a coincidence.
The Pashtun are a complex ethnic group divided in different tribes, and not all of them share a common origin. The Afghan people seem to keep memory of the secession of the Northern Tribes, as they themselves declare to be "Bani-Israil but not Yehudi", obviously meaning "Children of Israel, but not Jews".
Two branches of the Pashtun people, called Durrani and Galzay, are credited as "Ibrani" (Hebrews), and are divided in tribes having names very similar to some of the Israelite Tribes: the Yusufzai (Yusuf-Si, Yusufzad), are the "Children of Yosef"; the Efridi or Afridi may be related to Ephrayim; the Rabbani to Reuven, the Shinwari to Shim'on, the Lewani to Levi, the Daftani to Naphtali, and the Jaji or Gaji to Gad. Following this pattern, it would be also possible to identify the Ashurai tribe with Asher, though other sources suggest they are descendents of ancient Assyrians (who exiled the Israelites). Indeed, the term "Ashura" in the Indian sub-continent is applied not only to Assyrians but also to Jews, Gypsies and other peoples coming from Mesopotamia. In this context it is likely that Asher became Ashurai in the same way as Yosef became Yusufzai, by changing "e" into "u".
An enigmatic statement is written in an Apocryphon ascribed to Ezra, saying of the exiled Northern Tribes as follows: "then they resolved to leave the country populated by Goyim and go to a distant land never yet inhabited by man, and there at last to be obedient to their laws, which in their own country they had failed to keep". Crediting this book, it was suggested that part of the Northern Israelites in exile actually decided to re-organize their nation and appoint the House of Shaul, their first King, to rule over them. This might be the main original stock of the Afghans and their Binyaminite royal house.
Besides the tribal names, it is important to consider:
1) cultural features and traditions;
2) historical records.
1) Cultural features and traditions:
* The Pashtun call themselves "Bani-Israel", and they believe to have been carried away from their original homeland.
* Jewish names such as "Israel" - never found among the Muslims - as well as Shmuel and the names of the Northern Tribes, are frequent among Afghans.
* Besides the oral tradition, there are also scrolls of genealogy that have been kept among the tribes, reaching back to the ancestors of the Jewish nation. These scrolls are well preserved and some are written in gold on doe skins.
* Their legal system, called Pashtunwali, (the Pashtu Law), has many resemblances with Torah. They have in great esteem the "Tavrad El Sharif" (meaning "Torah of Mosheh"), and they rise at the mention of Mosheh's name.
* The Pashtun practise circumcision on the 8th day like Jews, while Muslims perform circumcision usually at the age of 12, because of Yishmael, the father of the Arabs.
* They rest on Shabbath day, not working and not cooking either. On 'Erev Shabbath they prepare twelve "hallot" -traditional Jewish bread, and an elder woman lights a candle in honour of the Shabbath. After lighting, the candle is usually covered by a large basket - perhaps, this might have been done in the origin to hide their Jewishness.
* They are careful about not shaving their side-locks, keeping curled hair before the ears in a similar way as Orthodox Jews do, in accordance to the commandment.
* They use to wear a sort of small "tallit", a four-cornered garment to which they sometimes tie strings or fringes similar to the "tzitzit", which is a Torah commandment. Some of them even wear a small box that recall the "tefillin" (phylactery).
* Many Pashtun people pray facing Yerushalaym.
* They also keep "kosher", dietary laws like those observed by Jews. Some of them do not eat meat and milk together, and make difference between pure and impure birds.
* Pashtun women keep laws regarding their period of impurity. During this time and for a week after, no contact is allowed with the husband. After this period, she immerses in a river or in a bathhouse if a natural spring is not available. This is exactly like the Israeli "mikveh".
* The "Magen David" is widely used as their symbol. A Pashtun property, either house or vehicle, may be recognized for this emblem shown somewhere.
* There is also the practice of sprinkling blood on doorposts and lintels, and offering sacrifices during pestilence.
* Some customs related to marriage: endogamous, the wedding is done at the bride's family. There is also the law of levirate.
Historical records:
* The Islam Encyclopaedia, published by the Turkish Ministry of Education, considered to be among the most authoritative sources, states: "The Durrani and the Galzay tribes originate from the Ibrani (the Hebrew people)...And it is asserted that many others of the Afghan composition are originally of the Ibrani as well."
* The most reliable Persian historians said that the Afghans are descended from the Jews, and that "since they embraced Islam, they cautiously conceal their origin."
* The Pashtun language shows evidences of a Chaldaic influence.
It is however clear that not all Pashtun tribes are of Israelite origin. The Pashtun are a complex ethnic group, resulting from different migratory flows. Nevertheless, the tribes mentioned above have enough characteristics to be considered partially descendants of the Northern Kingdom of Israel.
(1) Wayyiqra 24:5
Many others of the Northern Kingdom took refuge in Judah when Assyrians began to perform mass deportations, and others that remained were not even taken into exile. The Scriptures attest that the Kings of Judah ruled over all the Tribes of Israel after the Northern Kingdom disappeared as a political entity (see references to Kings Hizkiyahu and Yoshiyahu in Dibre Hayamim II, chapters 15, 30, 31, 34). On the other hand, when Sennakherib invaded Judah and besieged Jerusalem without success, he returned back to Assyria carrying more than 200 thousand captives from Judah, consequently, the Assyrian exile concerned both Kingdoms and all the Tribes, not only the Northern ones. About 120 years later, also the inhabitants of Judah were taken into exile in Babylon. After the fall of Babylon, the Persian kings allowed all Israelites, regardless their former status as Northern or Southern, and without tribal distinction, to return back to Eretz Yisrael. A reduced number of them resettled back in their homeland. The majority of the Jews preferred to stay in their new country. Babylon became the main Jewish cultural centre of the Middle East.The historian Josephus confirms that the vast majority of Jews chose to remain in Asia rather than join the pioneers who rebuilt Yerushalaym. He records that Jews came from all over the Parthian empire to attend the Jewish celebrations in Yerushalaym, and that when the festivals were over, most of the multitude returned to "their own countries" (the different regions were they were settled). The Megillah of Esther attests that the Jews were so numerous and dispersed throughout the empire that any decree concerning them had to be sent to all 127 Persian provinces, from India to Ethiopia.
The Israelites in exile, both those of the Northern Kingdom as well as those of Judah, dwelled for centuries in territories under the same imperial sovereignty: Babylonian, Persian, Macedonian, Seleucian, Ashkanian (Parthian), Sassanian. These empires extended their dominion over Central Asia and the northwest of the Indian Sub-continent. From their original settlements, many Israelites followed the most natural route in those times in search for a better future: the Silk Road, that led them to the east, reaching lands as far as the Chinese shores of the Pacific Ocean.The earliest Israelite migrations along the Silk Road began after the fall of Nineveh and before the fall of Yerushalaym under Nebukhadnetzar, during the short transition period in which the Neo-Babylonian Empire consolidated. This is the origin of Bukharian Jews, that kept their Jewish identity along history, and are in some way related to most Hebrew communities in Asia.
Other Israelites in the same period may have gone even farther. There is an apocryphal book ascribed to Ezra that contains an interesting statement that might have any historical background, perhaps transmitted by oral tradition: it declares that the Northern Tribes exiled by Assyrians decided to emigrate to a distant land never yet inhabited by man, and there at last to be obedient to their laws, which in their own country they had failed to keep. Their journey took a year and a half, and reached the land called "Arzareth". This land name does not exist, but there are some possible interpretations: the Hebrew words "eretz ahereth" (arz-ah'r'th) , meaning "the other land", or also "eretz aherith" (arz-ah'rith), meaning "the land's end" or "the most far away land". Such land might be China, or even Japan. Also the Scriptures mention where many Israelites are to be found: "Behold, these shall come from far away, and see, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim."
- Yeshayahu 49:12 The "land of Sinim" in Hebrew is no other than China! We know that a relevant number of the descendants of the exiled Israelites wandered progressively eastwards, and that there was an active trade in those times between China and the west. Therefore, it is feasible that many of them moved to settle in the outposts that flourished along the interconnecting caravan trails, as well as in way stops and coastal cities. Among the many possible Jewish settlements in China, a certain one is the ancient capital, Kaifeng. Jewish merchants and their families from the west arrived and settled in Kaifeng finding acceptance of their customs and freedom from persecution. Thus started one of the most remarkable stories of a Jewish community that existed isolated from any outside Jewish contact. Completely unknown to the western world, the Jews of Kaifeng maintained a Synagogue, mikveh, kept kasruth and practised berith milah for nearly one millennium. Many natural catastrophes destroyed the city and after several rebuilding, the Synagogue fell into ruin after the last flooding in the 19th century c.e. There were no more Rabbis and the community became progressively assimilated. To this day, several hundred residents of the old Chinese capital continue to think of themselves as descendants of the House of Israel. They hold firm to this belief despite the fact that their features are indistinguishable from those of their neighbours, they have had no Rabbi for about two centuries, no Synagogue or other communal organization for several generations, and remember virtually nothing of the faith and traditions of their ancestors. Until today, the street on which many of them now live is named "The Way of the People that Teaches the Scriptures"; quite an unusual name for a small street in the middle of China.
Even though by "Hebrew" we understand "Israelite" or "Jew", the same term may be suitable to define a larger group, known as "Habiru", that refers mainly to the Avrahamic peoples, a branch of the Semitic stock.This means that, peoples having many resemblances and common cultural heritage with Jews may be descendant of the pre-Israelite Hebrews, and not necessarily from the Israelites in Diaspora. Therefore, it is more accurate to include the peoples in a larger group rather than a more restricted one: for example, the Hyksos were Habiru, though they might have been Israelites - this second possibility is suggested, but not thoroughly proven. The Roma (Gypsies) might be descendants of the Hyksos, they are in some way related to Israelites, but it is more accurate to classify them among the descent of the Habiru. It is known that in later times they were dwelling in Northwestern India, from where they migrated westwards, and it is in this area where a relevant number of Hebrew-like peoples have been found. Some of them have been recognized by the State of Israel and have performed Aliyah (see Jews of India). These peoples of the Indian and Turkestan regions are very likely of genuine Israelite origin, related to the post-exilic period. Documented sources prove that a large number of the Northern Israelites exiled by the Assyrians migrated beyond the eastern boundaries of the Persian Empire, namely, the Indus Basin, Rajasthan, Pundjab, and also towards the Pamir and China.
Josephus wrote: "...the Ten Tribes who are beyond the Euphrates till now, and are an immense multitude, whose numbers cannot be estimated." (Antiquities 11:2) He attested that in the first century c.e., the Northern Tribes of Israel were an immense multitude "beyond Euphrates River", this means in the lands to the east of Mesopotamia. How far to the east, it is not specified.
The Khyber Pass is the best natural land route to India through the Hindu Kush mountain range. It has been not only a major trade route for centuries, but also an entry point for conquering armies carrying on their invasions. A very interesting curiosity is that "Khyber" seems to be a Hebrew name: its meaning is related to the Hebrew root chet-bet-resh, the verb "to connect", "to couple", "to join", implying also partnership, junction, intimate union. Even though this term may not be Hebrew, no other possible etymology has yet been found.
Kashmiris light a candle for the Shabbath, and celebrate in Spring a festival that they call Paskha; in this period they adjust their lunar calendar with the solar year, and the way they do it is similar to the Jewish system. Even their language has many Hebrew words. Kashmiris' character, style of clothing, traditions and habits resemble those of Israelis. The head cover of the old Kashmiri women is quite like the one for Israeli women. The majority of the old graves in Kashmir are aligned in east-west direction like the Jewish graves, whereas the Moslem graves are in the north-south direction. There is a group of Kashmiri people that still today call themselves "B'ney Yisrael", meaning "Children of Israel" (different from the B'ney Yisrael of India, now fully recognized by the State of Israel as Jewish). They assert that this is the original name of all the people of Kashmir in ancient times. The names of the Kashmiri tribes are amazingly very similar to the Tribes of Israel, and according to these names it is likely that they reached the Valley of Kashmir in different periods: one is called the Tribe of Israel, another is Abri [meaning "Hebrew"], and the tribe of Kahana [like the Hebrew word for priest], as well as the Tribes of Musa (Mosheh), Shaul, and Shulaymanish (Shlomoh) seem to indicate a migration before the Kingdom was divided. Other names correspond to single Israelite Tribes, like Gadha as Gad, Asheriya as Asher, Dand as Dan, and even Lavi as Levi. More than three-hundred places in Kashmir have names that sound very familiar to ancient Israelites, mainly to the inhabitants of the Northern Kingdom. Some of these places are Mamre, Gilgit (Gilgal), Nabudaal (Nevo), Pishgah (Pisgah), Heshba (Heshbon), Bushan (Bashan), Medianpura (Midyan), Amunah (Amon), Goshan (Goshen, the region in Egypt where Israelites sojourned), Guzana (Gozan, that in Assyrian language is Guzana, one of the places where the Northern Tribes were sent in exile), and there is even Samaryah. Besides toponyms, also many names of people, male and female, are typically Hebrew.
Tribes that were exiled in Assyria in 3039 (722 b.c.e.). According to an Apocryphon ascribed to Ezra and other ancient records, many of these Israelites decided to emigrate into a distant country in the east. Along their route, many of them reached the Kashmir Valley and settled there.
The Persian Empire dominated a vast area of Asia and established commercial routes to the east. The Israelites in exile move freely within the empire, and many of them settled in Balkh, an important city between India and Central Asia. Balkh was the capital of the ancient Bactria, that roughly corresponds to modern Afghanistan. This land was rich in camels and horses; Parthians widely used the Bactrian camels to transport supplies for their army, and Bactrian horses were essential for their cavalry. The original inhabitants of this region were largely Scythian, but the succeeding empires that ruled over the land enabled colonization and the population became heterogeneous. Many Israelites were sent there as soldiers to keep control of the eastern borders, and even a group of Libyan Jews were deported there by the Persian king after a revolt in Libya.
Descend the present-day Afghans, also known as Pashtun.
According to their own tradition (explained in different versions), their eponym ancestor was Afghana, son of Yirmiah, son of Melek Talut (King Shaul). Afghana is said to have served at the court of Kings David and Shlomoh after his father and grandfather died in the same battle. The circumstances related to Afghana lead in some way to identify him with Mephivoshet, and his father Yirmiah with Yehonathan. There is also an explanation to the origin of their ethnic name, Pashtun, saying that they are descendants of Pithon, who was indeed Mephivoshet's grandson (1 Chronicles 8:35). The Afghan royal house was well acquainted of these facts concerning Israelite history, tracing their lineage to the Tribe of Binyamin. Nevertheless, the meaning of the term "Pashtun" or "Pathan" seems to have a different etymology, and the alleged relation with Pithon is to be considered a coincidence.
The Pashtun are a complex ethnic group divided in different tribes, and not all of them share a common origin. The Afghan people seem to keep memory of the secession of the Northern Tribes, as they themselves declare to be "Bani-Israil but not Yehudi", obviously meaning "Children of Israel, but not Jews".
Two branches of the Pashtun people, called Durrani and Galzay, are credited as "Ibrani" (Hebrews), and are divided in tribes having names very similar to some of the Israelite Tribes: the Yusufzai (Yusuf-Si, Yusufzad), are the "Children of Yosef"; the Efridi or Afridi may be related to Ephrayim; the Rabbani to Reuven, the Shinwari to Shim'on, the Lewani to Levi, the Daftani to Naphtali, and the Jaji or Gaji to Gad. Following this pattern, it would be also possible to identify the Ashurai tribe with Asher, though other sources suggest they are descendents of ancient Assyrians (who exiled the Israelites). Indeed, the term "Ashura" in the Indian sub-continent is applied not only to Assyrians but also to Jews, Gypsies and other peoples coming from Mesopotamia. In this context it is likely that Asher became Ashurai in the same way as Yosef became Yusufzai, by changing "e" into "u".
An enigmatic statement is written in an Apocryphon ascribed to Ezra, saying of the exiled Northern Tribes as follows: "then they resolved to leave the country populated by Goyim and go to a distant land never yet inhabited by man, and there at last to be obedient to their laws, which in their own country they had failed to keep". Crediting this book, it was suggested that part of the Northern Israelites in exile actually decided to re-organize their nation and appoint the House of Shaul, their first King, to rule over them. This might be the main original stock of the Afghans and their Binyaminite royal house.
Besides the tribal names, it is important to consider:
1) cultural features and traditions;
2) historical records.
1) Cultural features and traditions:
* The Pashtun call themselves "Bani-Israel", and they believe to have been carried away from their original homeland.
* Jewish names such as "Israel" - never found among the Muslims - as well as Shmuel and the names of the Northern Tribes, are frequent among Afghans.
* Besides the oral tradition, there are also scrolls of genealogy that have been kept among the tribes, reaching back to the ancestors of the Jewish nation. These scrolls are well preserved and some are written in gold on doe skins.
* Their legal system, called Pashtunwali, (the Pashtu Law), has many resemblances with Torah. They have in great esteem the "Tavrad El Sharif" (meaning "Torah of Mosheh"), and they rise at the mention of Mosheh's name.
* The Pashtun practise circumcision on the 8th day like Jews, while Muslims perform circumcision usually at the age of 12, because of Yishmael, the father of the Arabs.
* They rest on Shabbath day, not working and not cooking either. On 'Erev Shabbath they prepare twelve "hallot" -traditional Jewish bread, and an elder woman lights a candle in honour of the Shabbath. After lighting, the candle is usually covered by a large basket - perhaps, this might have been done in the origin to hide their Jewishness.
* They are careful about not shaving their side-locks, keeping curled hair before the ears in a similar way as Orthodox Jews do, in accordance to the commandment.
* They use to wear a sort of small "tallit", a four-cornered garment to which they sometimes tie strings or fringes similar to the "tzitzit", which is a Torah commandment. Some of them even wear a small box that recall the "tefillin" (phylactery).
* Many Pashtun people pray facing Yerushalaym.
* They also keep "kosher", dietary laws like those observed by Jews. Some of them do not eat meat and milk together, and make difference between pure and impure birds.
* Pashtun women keep laws regarding their period of impurity. During this time and for a week after, no contact is allowed with the husband. After this period, she immerses in a river or in a bathhouse if a natural spring is not available. This is exactly like the Israeli "mikveh".
* The "Magen David" is widely used as their symbol. A Pashtun property, either house or vehicle, may be recognized for this emblem shown somewhere.
* There is also the practice of sprinkling blood on doorposts and lintels, and offering sacrifices during pestilence.
* Some customs related to marriage: endogamous, the wedding is done at the bride's family. There is also the law of levirate.
Historical records:
* The Islam Encyclopaedia, published by the Turkish Ministry of Education, considered to be among the most authoritative sources, states: "The Durrani and the Galzay tribes originate from the Ibrani (the Hebrew people)...And it is asserted that many others of the Afghan composition are originally of the Ibrani as well."
* The most reliable Persian historians said that the Afghans are descended from the Jews, and that "since they embraced Islam, they cautiously conceal their origin."
* The Pashtun language shows evidences of a Chaldaic influence.
It is however clear that not all Pashtun tribes are of Israelite origin. The Pashtun are a complex ethnic group, resulting from different migratory flows. Nevertheless, the tribes mentioned above have enough characteristics to be considered partially descendants of the Northern Kingdom of Israel.
(1) Wayyiqra 24:5
So..Let´s see..What are people fighting for..
After they have been put in containers and mass murdered after they surrendered..Could it possible be to survive? It´s like the genocidal "war-fare" against the Kurds..isn´t it..The Britons where there and had their wars and with neighbouring countries took the land from people. Just to have those neighbouring countries keeping their genocidal "war-fares" for decades. Yeah it´s like with the Kurds..With NATO refusing to respond on calls for solutions and laying down arms, having countries like Turkey and Iran keeping their ethnically cleansing for decades. Just as it done on "the other side of the Iranian border" with countries using NATO on one side and Russia´s weaponry on the other to commit ethnically cleanings! Because that what it is! With NATO on one side and Russia's weaponry on the other and people using it in the "middle"! Because we can all figure out that all Pashtuns are not al-Qaida or even Talibans. And that the Talibans are not even a clan or a tribe. They were a couple of idiots starting a "student movement" when Bin Laden was up in the north and the psychopath were so impressed he thought he could use it. And kept on ethnically cleansing Iranians and Kurds, and the Talibans being used with Russia´s weaponry on one side to terrorise the whole region and beyond and ending up having the Pashtuns ethnically cleanse as well!
Because that what it is! With "NATO on one side and Russia on the other" and people using it for own gains "in the middle"! Or it´s maybe mutual..Since we serious doubt that Russia decided to have their military presence in Syria yesterday!
Because that what it is! With "NATO on one side and Russia on the other" and people using it for own gains "in the middle"! Or it´s maybe mutual..Since we serious doubt that Russia decided to have their military presence in Syria yesterday!
Yeah..And that was a decision taken yesterday..Or last week or so..
DAMASCUS (Reuters) - The Russian navy will make more use of Syrian ports as part of increased military presence in the Mediterranean, a Russian diplomat said on Wednesday.
You know..We really had enough of this! You take a discussion with President Mikhail Saakashvili for ways to avoid discord for future generations in Georgia, and "separatists" and how to solve this "issues and problems" so people can be living where they are without problems and take your f***** responsibility and take a discussion with NATO and their f****genocide "war-fares" as well, and not be some "exportation tools" for psychopaths at the expense of every one else and shut the hell up! Both of you..ALL of you! People can call people separatists, terrorists, Talibans, "Muhajideen´s", rebels like in the 18´th century or WHATEVER!
We just had it with it´s okay for Kosovo and for the Serbian province but it´s not okay for South Ossetia. Or it´s okay for South Ossetia but not for the Serbian province and Kosovo! Who do you people think you are? They are people which have lived on this planet as long as every one else! Just as the Pashtuns that were invaded by the British and fought them and then were invaded by the Russians and fought them and then invaded by the U.S. and when they surrendered they were mass murdered by some other f***** tribal! And then fought the whole f***** world as "Muhaijdeen´s" which were mass murdered by the Iranian psychopaths which have the stomach to call the Palestinians for the same, and Al-Qaida calling Somalis the same and by people that want to expand to Europe using every one else! This is no f***** playground! It´s TIME TO GROW UP! Y
You know..We really had enough of this! You take a discussion with President Mikhail Saakashvili for ways to avoid discord for future generations in Georgia, and "separatists" and how to solve this "issues and problems" so people can be living where they are without problems and take your f***** responsibility and take a discussion with NATO and their f****genocide "war-fares" as well, and not be some "exportation tools" for psychopaths at the expense of every one else and shut the hell up! Both of you..ALL of you! People can call people separatists, terrorists, Talibans, "Muhajideen´s", rebels like in the 18´th century or WHATEVER!
We just had it with it´s okay for Kosovo and for the Serbian province but it´s not okay for South Ossetia. Or it´s okay for South Ossetia but not for the Serbian province and Kosovo! Who do you people think you are? They are people which have lived on this planet as long as every one else! Just as the Pashtuns that were invaded by the British and fought them and then were invaded by the Russians and fought them and then invaded by the U.S. and when they surrendered they were mass murdered by some other f***** tribal! And then fought the whole f***** world as "Muhaijdeen´s" which were mass murdered by the Iranian psychopaths which have the stomach to call the Palestinians for the same, and Al-Qaida calling Somalis the same and by people that want to expand to Europe using every one else! This is no f***** playground! It´s TIME TO GROW UP! Y
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
We just went tired....
http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/05/29/massacre-in-afghanistan-was-the-us-complicit/
Well..How about that..same name same year..What a coincident..
It was the end of Iran-Iraq war 1980-1988
The mass killings were conducted under the supervision of several persons: Lajevardi, the Head of Evin Prison, Mullah Naieri in the revolutionary court, Mullah Niazi in the office of the prosecutor. They were rewarded dearly later: Lajevardi (the Bucher of Evin) became the Head of the Prisons Organization of Iran; Mullah Nairi became the Head of Center for Execution of Imam's Instructions, and Mullah Niazi became the Head of the State Inspectorate Organization.
In 1998 Mullah Niazi, Taliban governor of Mazar-e-Sharif, issued a fatwa that declared that the murder of Hazaras was not a crime and gave justification to the genocide of this people.
Hazara Mongols, Hazara expatriates in Iran suffer the same discrimination as they experience in Afghanistan. The assumption that religion alone will assure Iran's defense of Hazara interests seems foolish when one considers that Iranians are ethnically the same as the Tajiks who participated in persecution of Hazaras in the past.
And Afghanistan "Muhajideen´s" and Palestinian "Muhajideen´s" and Somali "Muhajideen´s" and "Muhajideen´s" every where..For every ones information the Talibans are not even a "Taliban-student-movement" - They are a ancient tribal: Pashtuns! And Palestinians are Palestinians and the Muhajideen´s are/were the Iranian resistance which were mass murdered JUST as every one else! The only really Muhajideen´s are Iranians and was mass murdered by the psychopaths in Iran!
Well..How about that..same name same year..What a coincident..
It was the end of Iran-Iraq war 1980-1988
The mass killings were conducted under the supervision of several persons: Lajevardi, the Head of Evin Prison, Mullah Naieri in the revolutionary court, Mullah Niazi in the office of the prosecutor. They were rewarded dearly later: Lajevardi (the Bucher of Evin) became the Head of the Prisons Organization of Iran; Mullah Nairi became the Head of Center for Execution of Imam's Instructions, and Mullah Niazi became the Head of the State Inspectorate Organization.
In 1998 Mullah Niazi, Taliban governor of Mazar-e-Sharif, issued a fatwa that declared that the murder of Hazaras was not a crime and gave justification to the genocide of this people.
Hazara Mongols, Hazara expatriates in Iran suffer the same discrimination as they experience in Afghanistan. The assumption that religion alone will assure Iran's defense of Hazara interests seems foolish when one considers that Iranians are ethnically the same as the Tajiks who participated in persecution of Hazaras in the past.
And Afghanistan "Muhajideen´s" and Palestinian "Muhajideen´s" and Somali "Muhajideen´s" and "Muhajideen´s" every where..For every ones information the Talibans are not even a "Taliban-student-movement" - They are a ancient tribal: Pashtuns! And Palestinians are Palestinians and the Muhajideen´s are/were the Iranian resistance which were mass murdered JUST as every one else! The only really Muhajideen´s are Iranians and was mass murdered by the psychopaths in Iran!
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